Organic soil growers mosh pit collective of peeps

Looking great jewels

So do you use the 3.0 to top dress?

When re amending do you use the 3.0?
No till?

How big are your boxes soil wise?
Just trying to get a better direction for this grow as well as follow up grows after harvest as I set up the pots to do basically chop and plant back into it at least in my head.

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I am debating making my own sip out of 27 gal totes or doing 30 gal pots.

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My Earthbox’s each hold 2 cubic ft of soil. I dont fill it up all the way though because I know I will be top dressing and adding volume. It holds about 2.5 gallons of water in the reservoir. I can get about 4 runs from a box before it starts getting too full and I dump it all in a tub for reammend and refill the box.
I let my reservoir go empty when I want to topwater in teas and such. Then I wait a day to refill so my soil stays just moist, not wet. My reammend varies. I use my own inputs at times but basically follow Coots recipe. Sometimes when my health gets crappy and I dont want to mess with it, I’ll just use BAS craft blend and Buildaflower topdress, gypsum, peat and pumice. I keep it on hand. I use the craft blend, compost and ewc throughout veg and Buildaflower topdress for flower, along with some langbienite pre and post flower.

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I thought you’d seen some plants I’ve grown… Autos grown seed to harvest in just decent organic soil in aerated bucket SIPs with less than 5g of actual soil can consistently produce QP+ harvests if you’re environment/management is good, fwiw.

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I was mostly wondering just about BAS. When I saw the recommendation for 15 gallon minimum I was unsure if I was missing something.
So you’d say the 5 gallon SIP with a solid living soil will be perfectly fine??? That would be a lot easier to deal with.

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I’m getting ready to order what I need for Organics and want to make sure I’m getting the right stuff right away. Don’t wanna get started and find out I did something dumb. Done that too many times hahahaha

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Hey @Mozzy could you give us a link to your journal. Your private so I cant search it. Thanks

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Based on my experiences with decent organic bag soil, made up of the following for example, my answer would be yes; however I’m not familiar with the one you reference so you should compare and poke more knowledgeable soil growers on potential technical differences/issues…my evidence is empirical:

"ROOTS ORGANICS

LUSH

DERIVED FROM

Earthworm castings, dolomite, limestone, phosphate rock, bat guano, langbeinite, feather meal, sulfate of potash, fishbone meal, soybean meal, fish meal, kieserite, volcanic rock dust, blood meal, crab meal, alfalfa meal, greensand, volcanic ash, kelp meal, nettle leaf and hop flowers

*0.8% Slow Release Nitrogen from feather meal, blood meal, bat guano, soybean meal, alfalfa meal, fish meal, fishbone meal, crab meal, nettle leaf, hop flowers.

CONTAINS NONPLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS

1.5% Humic Acids from Leonardite and Peat Moss

0.1% Beneficial Bacteria and Mycorrhizal Fungi *

*BACTERIA CONTENT

Bacillus subtilis

2,000,000.0 CFU PER GRAM

Bacillus licheniformis

1,000,000.0 CFU PER GRAM

Bacillus megaterium

1,000,000.0 CFU PER GRAM

Bacillus simplex

1,000,000.0 CFU PER GRAM

*MYCORRHIZAL FUNGI CONTENT

Rhizophagus intraradices

0.4 PROPAGULES PER GRAM

Funneliformis mosseae

0.03 PROPAGULES PER GRAM

Septoglomus deserticola

0.03 PROPAGULES PER GRAM

Soil Amending Ingredients: Peat moss, earthworm castings, pumice, perlite, and coco fiber."

…Also, FWIW, my only experience in this scenario has been numerous plants where the sprouted seed was planted in soil SIPs that are already saturated, and with the reservoir full as well (and a 24/7 aerator in it from day one).

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Of course:

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Appreciate the info there. I’ll compare it with the BAS. I went ahead and orders a set of grobucket sips and some of the Build-a-Soil 3.0 mix. I ordered some of their craft blend which sounds like it’s a bunch of amendments that can also be used to recharge used soil. I’m gonna be using your journal as a reference pretty heavy hahahaha.
Gonna do a run of some fast bud autos to use up some fox farms stuff I got lying around and then onto the organic sips. Should work out since I think I gotta let the soil cook for a bit anyways so I’ll be getting two birds stoned at once!!!

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No problem. Looking forward to seeing the first run progress.

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Here’s an old video from BAS with Jeremy making 10 gallon batch. He had a list of like 10 recipes and selected this one based on the lab results. I followed this recipe and crushed it.

Now, I re-amended it before this round, but here’s an auto GSCE-ILGM in an earthbox. Mostly straight water with a few top dress and teas here and there. Very similar to @GreenJewels
I’ve got my own worm bin I get fresh castings from. Week 15 1/2. Bout to pull in a few days.



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Beautiful and thanks for the video

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She looks great! Nice job :clap:

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Any of you guys ever heard of Spanish moss? Wondering if it would make a good mulch?

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I have and looked at it and kept walking….
It’s more decorative than functional in my opinion.
Not something I would use/spend money on
I just use straw or the leaves I pick off the plants as I defoliate etc.
I did buy a bag of mixed clover seeds from tractor supply used for deer without any additives just seed with a small amount of “other” seeds. Been using it for years and still have half the bag left and use it a lot.
Cover crop and mulch are great things



The pot with Jack is my go to for salad lol it’s living mulch and will chop it and turn it back into the soil just as l do with the leaves I pluck. At least a good portion of them right back into the pots soil as I grow.
Many say no no because of fungus gnats but I apply beneficial nematodes and have no issues as they are the gift that keeps on giving eating the fungus gnat larvae.
Symbiotic relationship and all.

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Smallest i do is 5 gallon living soil. Top dressed on time easy to get big plants. BEST grows for me are 20 gallon pots. Living and organic soils do better the larger the pot. 7-10 gallon is my usual. Last 20 gallon netted 2.5lb dry of gg4.

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My last grow was in 25 gal pots. Water only with the occasional molasses treatment. I built a soil and allowed it to cook for 5 months before using it. Unfortuantely i adopted 3 clones from my bro and introduced a spider mite infestation. Took me a while to eradicate, so i started over brand new. Ill be cooking up another batch (100 gallons) this spring for next winter. Im using 5 gal pots again, but really enjoyed the water only run…



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I dont know if spanish moss would be good for mulch. It is a parasitic plant and i dont know if it would leach off the nutrients or harm your plant…

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Good looking plants!

Water-only 5 gallon aerated SIPs with organic soil are stupid easy, and grow autos that produce ~1/4lb+ plants, fwiw:


…and your homemade soil is likely better than the organic bag soil I’m currently using.

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