# Need some help with spotting leaves **URL:** \ **Category:** Flowering\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419 "2023-03-30T13:14:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/1 "2023-03-30T13:14:47Z")
I e been fighting this on this plant from the beginning, and today it is really bad. I thought it was a calcium deficiency. I’ve tried everything I know. I’ve checked ph which is in line, I’ve fed cal mag, and epsom. It’s ffhf soil, and organic nutrients. Any ideas. Week four of flowering. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/a/9/5a950af2d0a7cfbb37dd4b2ec7327a70c59a2e42.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/4/0/440c872b0ffc604dcba1b8f9fe57aef93ae9172f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/2 "2023-03-30T13:21:15Z")
What is your runoff ppm? Ph runoff? Looks like a potassium or phosphorus deficiency. ---
**Author:** ![PurpNGold74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/purpngold74/32/533767_2.png) [@PurpNGold74](https://ilgmforum.com/u/PurpNGold74)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/3 "2023-03-30T13:35:10Z")
The first pic does look like it maybe a very sarly K deficiency. But looking at both id still lean calcium. How much calmag are you supplementing? And what are your runoff numbers? PH and ppm ---
**Author:** ![LateNightGardner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/latenightgardner/32/999445_2.png) [@LateNightGardner](https://ilgmforum.com/u/LateNightGardner)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/4 "2023-03-30T13:58:26Z")
> [@Dexterado](#): > > I’ve tried everything I know Answer these simple questions the best you can. If you are not sure, just bring it to our attention. We will figure it out. 1. Indoor or outdoor? - size of grow? 2. Otigin of seeds? 3. Regular, feminized, or autoflower? 4. Origin of water. PH, EC/TDS of source water? 5. PH and TDS/EC of if mixed solution? 6. Grow method? Soil, Soil-less, Coco, Hydro, Aquaponics. Please explain. 7. Nutrients or fertilizer system used. 8. What typr of lighting are you using? LED, HID (MH, CMH, HPS), or Fluorescents? Please elaborate. 9. What are the temps in your growspce? Day / Night? 10. What is the RH = relative humidity in your growspace? Day / Night? 11. AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier? 12. Do you have a Ventilation system? Size? 4", 6"? 13. Co2 Yes / No? 14. How long have you been growing? 15. What budget have you set in order to grow successfully? 16. If you grow hydro, then please explain your hydro method. DWC, R-DWC, Ebb and Flow, Or; Other? Other? 16b. Size and temperature of solution in reservoir? Always try to upload a clear picture in white light of any issues you may have to allow the community to identify your issue. Anything you feel would help us give you more informed advice should be included. Feel free to elaborate at the end of the survey. ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/5 "2023-03-30T14:32:09Z")
I haven’t measured ppm, because I don’t typically get runoff, and it’s organic. I use 1 1/2 tsp per gallon of cal mag. ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/6 "2023-03-30T14:37:32Z")
> [@LateNightGardner](#): > > - Indoor or outdoor? - size of grow? Indoor, one plant, 10 gal. > - Otigin of seeds? MSNL > - Regular, feminized, or autoflower? FEM > - Origin of water. PH, EC/TDS of source water? Well water > - PH and TDS/EC of if mixed solution? 6.5 ph, tds NA, organic > - Grow method? Soil, Soil-less, Coco, Hydro, Aquaponics. Please explain. Soil, organic nutrients. FFHF > - Nutrients or fertilizer system used. Happy frog fruit and flower 4-9-3 top dressed. > - What typr of lighting are you using? LED, HID (MH, CMH, HPS), or Fluorescents? Please elaborate. HLG 350r > - What are the temps in your growspce? Day / Night? Day 77 night 70 > - What is the RH = relative humidity in your growspace? Day / Night? 46% > - AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier? No > - Do you have a Ventilation system? Size? 4", 6"? Yes, 6” > - Co2 Yes / No? > - How long have you been growing? Years > - What budget have you set in order to grow successfully? Unlimited > - If you grow hydro, then please explain your hydro method. DWC, R-DWC, Ebb and Flow, Or; Other? Other? Here is some additional information ---
**Author:** ![PurpNGold74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/purpngold74/32/533767_2.png) [@PurpNGold74](https://ilgmforum.com/u/PurpNGold74)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/7 "2023-03-30T15:06:36Z")
Maybe up the calmag another half a spoon or so. Im still leaning its a cal issue. Next water/feed. Get you some runoff just for testing purposes. At least get your pH of runoff ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/8 "2023-03-30T15:32:51Z")
I just measured some runoff, and ph is 6.5, and ppm is 1960. Again, this is organic, and my understanding the PPM for organic was not relevant? ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/9 "2023-03-30T15:39:41Z")
It can be. I grow organic and ill check PPM amd PH periodically. Stuff happens sometimes and a plant will use more or less nutrients, or temps might aggrevate, the possibilities are endless. Even though we try to make a perfect growing world, nothing is perfect lol. Like @PurpNGold74 suggested, up the calmag a little. ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/10 "2023-03-30T15:41:42Z")
Got it. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![PurpNGold74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/purpngold74/32/533767_2.png) [@PurpNGold74](https://ilgmforum.com/u/PurpNGold74)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/11 "2023-03-30T16:10:21Z")
If everything is in range, then its the amount. Bit more calmag will do u right ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/12 "2023-03-30T16:58:01Z")
Cool, I gave it extra. We’ll see, and I’ll just remove the bad leaves as they become non productive. There’s plenty of leaves. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/a/d/1/ad195c9cdb89db80a46177e101222fccba1fd32d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![omeyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omeyer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/omeyer)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/13 "2023-03-31T17:18:03Z")
rust fungus? ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/14 "2023-03-31T17:49:47Z")
I don’t know. Looks calcium related. I flushed it with a bunch of water, with the last gallon containing recharge and fish sh!t. Removed a ton of leaves, so we’ll see. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/8/1/08102d6ded30504086544bca5fb46de23971b882.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/d/1/0d199ef5c02b2529f03569c5013b5c245a776b51.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/9/c/59c2aae09e94648f76d87fa6dae913633d4ff626.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/7/f/6/7f62aa63d02b54658c6cc65ed9e725ced322c9c2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bonjoyle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bonjoyle/32/711825_2.png) [@Bonjoyle](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bonjoyle)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/15 "2023-03-31T19:58:47Z")
Not saying it is not nute related but another option to look for to rule out is critters. Have you looked at all leaves affected at the underside with a scope for bugz? ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/16 "2023-03-31T20:40:00Z")
Yes, I have not found anything. Everything I look at points to calcium deficiency. Looks just like the pics. I’ve grown using my particular method multiple times, and never faced it before. Now I’m worried I killed my organic soil by flushing. I guess time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![Bonjoyle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bonjoyle/32/711825_2.png) [@Bonjoyle](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bonjoyle)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/17 "2023-03-31T21:32:53Z")
Cool, wanted to make sure we covered all bases. ---
**Author:** ![PurpNGold74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/purpngold74/32/533767_2.png) [@PurpNGold74](https://ilgmforum.com/u/PurpNGold74)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/18 "2023-05-03T16:51:38Z")
Updates? ---
**Author:** ![Dexterado](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dexterado/32/678065_2.png) [@Dexterado](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dexterado)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-some-help-with-spotting-leaves/99419/19 "2023-05-03T19:21:30Z")
I never was able to get the leaf issue under control. Today is day 63 of 12/12. Trichomes are all cloudy, but not much for amber on the buds, but the on the small bud leaves there’s quite a few amber. Giving it a few more days. ![IMG_2525](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/1/f/d1f9ee093f4368157af66c6b5c0a79aec510d162.jpeg)