# Need help with possible pest infestation or disease

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559>\
**Category:** Pests\
**Created:** [December 11, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559 "2020-12-11T16:57:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/1 "2020-12-11T16:57:40Z")

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Hi guys I’m really worried here. I think it might be a broad mite infestation But I’m not sure there are some things that don’t match up. Please someone help me identify this issue with my plants… here are some pictures.

 ![IMG_20201211_114625892](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/7/a/0/7a0709986087bb8fee7349573d858d9601fd1034.jpeg) ![IMG_20201211_114019311_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/6/5/d/65de26a354dd0d507bc0eeac564eafa54ae1b117.jpeg) ![IMG_20201211_114009075_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/2/e/5/2e5f7ded821049be9d32de733ebb465a0dfa0887.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/2 "2020-12-11T17:01:28Z")

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Here’s a pic of the whole room.

 ![IMG_20201211_113956764](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/2/6/0262d052c343e4f0ae1fa93c59337cebacc51b4b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Weedlover1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ee59a6/32.png) [@Weedlover1](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Weedlover1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/3 "2020-12-11T17:22:50Z")

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Not sure from the pictures but it looks like an infestation allright.Tag an experienced grower, like @kellydans

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**Author:** ![kellydans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/kellydans/32/580751_2.png) [@kellydans](https://ilgmforum.com/u/kellydans)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/4 "2020-12-11T18:27:54Z")

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your plants look good, I think you’re on top of it and correct looks like mites just gettin started. I guess I’ve been lucky I’ve never had a Mite problem. @Oldguy what would you use to rid the problem .

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**Author:** ![Oldguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/oldguy/32/389947_2.png) [@Oldguy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Oldguy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/5 "2020-12-11T20:00:03Z")

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Thanks for the tag @kellydans.  
Capt jacks dead bug should take care of things. ( Spinosad )  
Have to spray every 3-4 days to get the eggs.  
Takes that time for them to hatch.  
Should spray the backs of the leaves too.  
You can also use 3% peroxide and water mix to spray with as well. 50/50 mix. In between the capt jacks sprays.  
Hope you get them lil buggers. Had them before. 🤬🤬  
✌🙏

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/6 "2020-12-11T21:42:49Z")

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Also some backstory here… The strain is LA confidential feminized. I messed up and transplanted into too big of pots and they were over-watered until just recently. They also have had some highs during the day getting towards 89 to 92° for a week or so until I got a better thermometer and figured out my other one was broken. They also were in low humidity around 25 to 30rh for the first few weeks of their lives until I got a humidifier and hung up some towels. I use most of the Fox farm nutrients and for soil I use ocean Forest that I’m pretty sure I bought after a few frosts during the winter and was kept outside the store. I mention that because I know broad mites aren’t supposed to survive cold winters. I am now looking at some pictures of heat stress and it looks pretty similar. And I’m pretty new to this forum can someone else tag some experienced growers that they know of? Greatly appreciated everyone thank you. And am I correct and assuming it is broad mites you think? If so I’m reading a lot of scary stuff about them and how hard they are to get rid of. Is it even worth it to try? Or did you say screw it for the three and a half weeks and kill them and pop more

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/7 "2020-12-11T22:38:37Z")

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@Countryboyjvd1971  
@Covertgrower  
@Noctis420  
@MrPeat  
@kellydans  
@Myfriends410  
@Hellraiser  
@CoyoteCody  
@garrigan62  
@Dman1969  
Hey everybody sorry to bother you but I’m scared for my children can I please have some help? I’ve been reading up and it looks similar to some pH issues and heat stress and there’s also way too many different pests for me to figure out. Thank you everyone

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/8 "2020-12-11T22:38:44Z")

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@Enlightened420  
@flyinghigh  
@Gremmall  
@Hoppiefrog  
@imSICKkid  
@Jstar  
@Mmchugh42  
@Poseidon  
@Watt-Sun

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**Author:** ![Watt-Sun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/watt-sun/32/193796_2.png) [@Watt-Sun](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Watt-Sun)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/9 "2020-12-11T22:42:24Z")

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Have you confirmed that there are mites present? It looks to me like mechanical damage and the leaf curl caused by the leafs being crowded.

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**Author:** ![Jstar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/jstar/32/346418_2.png) [@Jstar](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Jstar)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/10 "2020-12-11T22:53:04Z")

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I second captain jacks. Infestation or not, it’s a completely safe product even to use as a preventative measure. Do you happen to have a fan blowing directly on them? @Deesnuts

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**Author:** ![BobbyDigital](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bobbydigital/32/1220557_2.png) [@BobbyDigital](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BobbyDigital)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/11 "2020-12-11T22:57:20Z")

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Honestly, I’m not seeing any bug problem. Just the leaf blades being so close together causing some warping.

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**Author:** ![Dman1969](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dman1969/32/1115434_2.png) [@Dman1969](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dman1969)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/12 "2020-12-11T23:02:36Z")

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I agree with all the above. But you had at least one bug.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/9/f/b/9fb07959ee91ffd866896a16b4de59ecc54ee50e.jpeg)  
But that’s the only spot I see so I think your good unless you see more. 🕶✌🤙

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/13 "2020-12-11T23:04:47Z")

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I have not confirmed any mites and I have tried. For a while. I planted from seed so there’s no way for me to bring it in on another plant and I don’t have any other kinds of plants. The soil I used was sitting out in the cold and a lot of pests don’t like that too. are you sure that damage could just because from leaves being too close together that’s very interesting honestly I would never have thought that. Are you sure it’s not something like heat stress or a pH issue. I’m seeing some early signs on heat stressed plants that look similar and also plants with high pH. Although I don’t see how a high pH issue would happen seeing as my water sits at a pH of 7 and gets lowered to 6.6 after nutrients and also I usually adjust when using regular water but I suppose it’s possible the new vivo sun pH tester I bought and calibrated it isn’t working right

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**Author:** ![Hellraiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hellraiser/32/294013_2.png) [@Hellraiser](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hellraiser)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/14 "2020-12-11T23:05:40Z")

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> [@Jstar](#):
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> I second captain jacks. Infestation or not, it’s a completely safe product even to use as a preventative measure

My opinion as well. I spray my plants in veg every 2 weeks as part of my pest prevention program and never have pests other than fungus gnats that don’t give a F about any pest prevention program.

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/15 "2020-12-11T23:07:46Z")

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Yeah I think I will do that thanks for the info guys. Now I have read that some pesticides including neem oil can be damaging to plants if used too much. Will spraying in veg cause any damage or loss of quality to my buds? Also I am now seeing what you guys are talking about with the leaves being too close together and they could just rub in the wind or whatever. Is there anything I should do to alleviate that issue or is it not really a problem? Thank you everyone so much you have put my anxious mind at ease

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**Author:** ![Hellraiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hellraiser/32/294013_2.png) [@Hellraiser](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hellraiser)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/16 "2020-12-11T23:12:32Z")

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Neem oil is fine in veg, I’ve been using it for years, but don’t use it in flowering, any bug problems in flowering go for the Capt Jacks or another spinosad based product.

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**Author:** ![Dman1969](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dman1969/32/1115434_2.png) [@Dman1969](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dman1969)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/17 "2020-12-11T23:14:49Z")

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> [@Hellraiser](#):
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> fungus gnats that don’t give a F about any pest prevention program.

Food grade DE will do the trick on that little bug. 🕶✌🤙

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**Author:** ![Hellraiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hellraiser/32/294013_2.png) [@Hellraiser](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hellraiser)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/18 "2020-12-11T23:15:26Z")

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> [@Deesnuts](#):
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> Also I am now seeing what you guys are talking about with the leaves being too close together and they could just rub in the wind or whatever. Is there anything I should do to alleviate that issue

Make sure there’s not too much wind hitting that area.

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**Author:** ![Deesnuts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@Deesnuts](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deesnuts)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/19 "2020-12-11T23:16:35Z")

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Thank you so much @Hellraiser@Dman1969 @BobbyDigital @Jstar @Watt-Sun @Weedlover1@Oldguy @kellydans.

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**Author:** ![Hellraiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hellraiser/32/294013_2.png) [@Hellraiser](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hellraiser)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/need-help-with-possible-pest-infestation-or-disease/59559/20 "2020-12-11T23:17:40Z")

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True, but I absolutely hate using DE, the stuff gets everywhere, I can taste it after using it.

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