# Light question please help **URL:** \ **Category:** Lighting\ **Created:** [August 20, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076 "2022-08-20T13:19:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tryingtogrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Tryingtogrow](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tryingtogrow)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/1 "2022-08-20T13:19:43Z")
![Screenshot_20220820-091716](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/c/1/0/c1012bf48f29f99f4599424f306b48eab6afeee1.jpeg) Would like some options on this light is a 4\*4 tent . Is it enough light ? Thx ---
**Author:** ![LateNightGardner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/latenightgardner/32/999445_2.png) [@LateNightGardner](https://ilgmforum.com/u/LateNightGardner)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/2 "2022-08-20T14:06:26Z")
[quote=“Tryingtogrow, post:1, topic:92076”] enough light [/quote] I like this one @Tryingtogrow with the inclusion of UVA and IR spectrums. Also not see how many LED horticulture grow lights have this capability PLUS detachable driver??? I’ve been using a HYPHOTONFLUX HPF4000 480w for a couple years and it has the detachable Driver out of the box. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/e/4/6/e46eeed155a513a04d245b3eaa093ca6a15bb7ed.jpeg) Hyphotonflux released a new 480w model for 2022 with the expanded spectrum that now includes the UVA and Far Red. This Mars Hydro is the first 300w model I’ve seen with the expanded spectrum that includes the UVA and Far Red and detachable Driver. Really can reduce heat in your tent. And has a 2.8 umol/J efficacy?? 🤩 make sure to get the extension cable for your driver. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/0/3/4038e3f7c8e52a55a04a6e20edfa8494c722a7c2.jpeg) Limited-time deal: 2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO FC-E3000 300Watt LED Grow Light 3X3ft UV IR Full Spectrum Grow Light Bar with 1184pcs Diodes, Dimmable & Detachable Grow Lampe for Veg Bloom Flower, Achieve 2.8 umol/J > **[Amazon.com: 2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO FC-E3000 300Watt LED Grow Light 3X3ft UV IR...](https://www.amazon.com/MARS-HYDRO-FC-E3000-Light-Dimmable/dp/B08Q35VJQL?tag=ilovegrowingm-20)** > > Buy 2022 Upgraded MARS HYDRO FC-E3000 300Watt LED Grow Light 3X3ft UV IR Full Spectrum Grow Light Bar with 1184pcs Diodes, Dimmable & Detachable Grow Lampe for Veg Bloom Flower, Achieve 2.8 umol/J: Growing Lamps - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible... ---
**Author:** ![BigCat420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bigcat420/32/557989_2.png) [@BigCat420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BigCat420)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/3 "2022-08-20T14:07:04Z")
Says it only flowers a 2.5x 2.5 tho ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/4 "2022-08-20T14:09:48Z")
Four lamps required, using above footprint ---
**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/5 "2022-08-20T14:09:57Z")
The light is said to cover a 2.5 x 2.5’ during flower stage. It comes up way short in coverage as well as power needed to flower a 4x4 space. When looking at lights look closely at the PPFD maps. One caution when doing so is you hope the maps provided by the manufacturer / seller are accurate and truthful. Where possible I like to compare mfgr. representations to an independent third party’s tests. The diodes used is the most important in terms of the energy consumed to produce the light. Samsung 301 b or h are most recommended. Regarding PPFD maps… what space is the map covering. 4x4 3x3 2x4 etc Note the fixtures height above the plants note what the PPFD is at the edges of the space you want to cover. As a general rule you want an average PPFD edge to edge of around 750. Many want it to be closer to 1000. I ---
**Author:** ![BigCat420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bigcat420/32/557989_2.png) [@BigCat420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BigCat420)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/6 "2022-08-20T14:11:33Z")
I run 2 marshydro ts3000 for my 5x5 veg tent because like @beardless said they fall off on the edges ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/7 "2022-08-20T14:11:58Z")
@beardless Well spoken Congrats, you got this, as usual thank you. ![FULL MAP](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/c/2/4/c249f9ad6a8e64723af548682461cadf33f027c7.jpeg) My current lights map in four quads of 4x4. Obviously, I need better lights for Christmas. 1000 watts meter measured using older LED lamps, acquired over last 10 years. Old now, like me. ---
**Author:** ![Tryingtogrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Tryingtogrow](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tryingtogrow)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/8 "2022-08-20T14:17:25Z")
I also have 2 vispectras 125 actual watts used So if I use 2 vispectras and the mars hydro in the above pic. Would that be good in a 4\*4 tent ---
**Author:** ![Dave101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dave101/32/398878_2.png) [@Dave101](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dave101)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/9 "2022-08-20T14:34:03Z")
If your sticking with Mars hydro you’d want the fc6500 for a 4x4, this will give you 100% coverage. Also note that There are two types, fc and fc-e. Fc will have the better Samsung lm301b diodes, Fc-e has the cheaper BridgeLux, hence the price difference. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/d/5/5d5a61665e8c11120440b06acbc4c790680ec63a.jpeg "Best 4x4 Coverage For The Money? - Mars Hydro FC-6500 Unboxing, PAR, Spectrum, Wattage & Heat Test") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBWAC6dTvg) ---
**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/10 "2022-08-20T14:37:54Z")
You would still have an issue with coverage. Something that will cover 4 linear feet. Within the mars line, the SP3000 covers 2x4 A top pick for a 2x4 is something like the HLG 350r or the HLG 320 XL V2 Rspec. ---
**Author:** ![Blastfact](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blastfact/32/789509_2.png) [@Blastfact](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Blastfact)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/11 "2022-08-20T14:59:02Z")
And they are the already out of date lm301b, there not lm301H or top tier Evo. Are they lm301b swept up from the floor or top bin. And we don’t know, crappy china company’s lie about everything. ---
**Author:** ![Dave101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dave101/32/398878_2.png) [@Dave101](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dave101)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/12 "2022-08-20T15:20:15Z")
Who knows, maybe, maybe not. What I will say is that some people can’t afford top of the line hlg, chilLed, etc. would I rather them chose a Growcraft x6, absolutely, unfortunately we can’t all have Lamborghinis. ---
**Author:** ![Blastfact](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blastfact/32/789509_2.png) [@Blastfact](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Blastfact)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/13 "2022-08-20T21:20:09Z")
It’s not a matter of Lambo, Chevy or Cadillac. Or what one can afford or not. It’s integrity and priority’s at a completely different level. ---
**Author:** ![Mosca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mosca/32/819854_2.png) [@Mosca](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mosca)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/14 "2022-08-22T17:31:13Z")
That mars fc 6500 is currently on sale at rightbuddotcom for 665.99. Great price. They are authorized hlg distributor and they have scorpion for 899.00 and the diablo for 1174.00. 4 days shipping and was discreet. ---
**Author:** ![Tryingtogrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Tryingtogrow](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tryingtogrow)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/15 "2022-08-22T18:37:58Z")
I’ve heard that rightbud is not a good company to order from ---
**Author:** ![Mosca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mosca/32/819854_2.png) [@Mosca](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mosca)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/16 "2022-08-22T19:01:49Z")
They are authorized HGL dealers, would hgl have them if they weren’t. Hgl was out of what was recommended by the forum, so I Google and found them. As mentioned, very discreet shipping. No ties other than were I bought my light. ---
**Author:** ![Tryingtogrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Tryingtogrow](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tryingtogrow)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/17 "2022-08-22T19:42:57Z")
![Screenshot_20220822-154059](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/7/7/f771d1eb602e119cd874abd625f6a61839a6adf4.png) This is what I found . I could be very much wrong . I’m just a lil concerned after reading some reviews ---
**Author:** ![Mosca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mosca/32/819854_2.png) [@Mosca](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mosca)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/18 "2022-08-22T21:34:08Z")
Got a quality light from them in 4 days, Posted my picture like a proud papa. [Uploading: 20220808\_101139.jpg…] ---
**Author:** ![Mosca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mosca/32/819854_2.png) [@Mosca](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mosca)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/19 "2022-08-22T23:13:28Z")
![20220808_101839](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/a/e/b/aeb21126b941f33d2e150d3409db9a0d45a7bfc2.jpeg) ![20220808_101139](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/e/e/7/ee75e12ee19e5a264e0c0e6f8f13db7d8faf91a9.jpeg) Dont know why they didn’t load the first time. ---
**Author:** ![Mosca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mosca/32/819854_2.png) [@Mosca](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mosca)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076/20 "2022-08-22T23:15:59Z")
If they are authorized dealer, wouldn’t HLG vouche for a dealer? [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/light-question-please-help/92076.md?page=2)