# LED lighting choices .... Help Please **URL:** \ **Category:** Lighting\ **Created:** [February 24, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981 "2018-02-24T21:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nepa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@Nepa](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nepa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/1 "2018-02-24T21:05:36Z")
I’m a rookie a bit overwhelmed with all the LED lighting choices available. Going to use a 4x4 tent and have read the advise here recommending 40 -50W per sq ft. Contemplating using Max Bloom X6, 600 watt 12 band spectrum w/ COB LEDs. Supposedly pulls 300 W to run. Listed on Amazon [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076LQ3GMB?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076LQ3GMB?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) and appears to be a decent light. Based on recommendations found here looks like I’d need two of them for a 4x4 setup. Manufacturer says one is recommended for a 4x5 tent. Anybody ever heard of this LED light? I haven’t seen anyone talking about this one in all my internet searches. Appears to be using quality LEDs (Cree) and has a 5 yr warranty listed. Seems a bit too good to be true type of thing. Appreciate any comments on this light or recommendations for other lights ($200 - $400 max budget) for a 4x4. Thanks so much!! … anxious to get started ---
**Author:** ![daddydays](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/daddydays/32/95541_2.png) [@daddydays](https://ilgmforum.com/u/daddydays)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/2 "2018-02-24T21:18:14Z")
My 2 cents is, 4x4=16, x50=800 you need 800 true watts for your tent (but I am new at this) Viparspectra or Mars make good LED lights but price is high . ---
**Author:** ![Nepa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@Nepa](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nepa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/3 "2018-02-24T21:26:18Z")
Thanks daddydays appreciate quick reply. Yeah I know based on the recommended 50W I would need more than one. Guess it’s another example of vendor over promising on coverage. The “Max Bloom” appeared to perform better than most. However, I find very little about them discussed other than on Amazon reviews and am worried about bogus performance reviews being posted. Thanks again for your reply … probably smarter for me to go with more recognized suppliers ---
**Author:** ![daddydays](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/daddydays/32/95541_2.png) [@daddydays](https://ilgmforum.com/u/daddydays)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/4 "2018-02-24T21:33:08Z")
Np, I am looking into Viparspectra myself, got a 2x3x4ish wooden box I made and was going to use cfl if I didn’t have to lower the lights but just found out you still need to lower and raise them even if you grow auto’s. ---
**Author:** ![Nepa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@Nepa](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nepa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/5 "2018-02-24T21:39:36Z")
I’m not real knowledgeable on the LED lighting topic. However, t was a little concerned that the Vipraspectors seem to be lacking on the red spectrum wavelength output. I’ve read that they are great for vegetative stage but not as good for flower stage. Seems like they are very popular though. ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/6 "2018-02-24T21:50:49Z")
@Nepa, First, welcome to ILGM forum 😀 It’s a fairly good fixture but a little pricey (MaxBloom x6)… 2 of these will do a little better and help you have a more even coverage [https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Dimmable-PAR450-450W-Light/dp/B01M084LIE/?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Dimmable-PAR450-450W-Light/dp/B01M084LIE/?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) If you have further questions, please just ask😀 ~Al ✌ 😇 Edit: Yes, in the graph representation, it seems to have a lack of red spectrum but that’s all switch turn on, veg and bloom, they are dimmable, so the spectrum is ajustable ---
**Author:** ![Nepa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@Nepa](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nepa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/7 "2018-02-24T22:01:51Z")
Thanks for the welcome @Niala. Appreciate your suggestion. I have been considering the Vipraspectra. They seem to be a popular choice. However, I was concerned that they seem to be lacking in the output of red spectrum light and was worried they might not work well during flower cycle. Also, based on recommended 40 - 50W per sq ft I’ve read in here. Two of them would only provide about half of that recommended output for a 4x4 tent (info on Amazon site says the Viparspectra PAR 450 pulls 210W max). Have you heard of people getting good results with a setup like that? I sound like I know a lot more about this than I do … only a rookie trying to ask the right questions and hopefully avoid wasting $. Thanks again for your help and suggestions! ---
**Author:** ![Impala64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Impala64](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Impala64)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/8 "2018-02-24T22:02:17Z")
Yeah i have a viper 1200 in a 4x4 and its good but not enough coverage for flower i was advised by the good people here to try 4 x 300w to get the desired coverage. Is there a supplement that can be added to get more red? ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/9 "2018-02-24T22:07:52Z")
I have edit my post after I saw your reply @Nepa > [@Niala](#): > > Edit: > > Yes, in the graph representation, it seems to have a lack of red spectrum but that’s all switch turn on, veg and bloom, they are dimmable, so the spectrum is ajustable So, with a max 400$ in budget, it’s tight for fairly good LED’s, you can go with 2 MaxBloom x4 but you will bust your budget of 60$ and also be shy on true watts ---
**Author:** ![Nepa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@Nepa](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nepa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/10 "2018-02-24T22:13:54Z")
Thanks @Niala . I didn’t see your edit until after I posted my reply. Regarding the dimmable feature of the light. I understand that dimmable feature can mix / adjust the wavelength frequency. However, if the Vipra 's spectrum graph is shown with “all switch turnon” is it possible to adjust red wavelength for higher output? Isn’t red light output “maxed out” on graph distribution? Hope my response makes sense… lol. Thanks again for your help ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/11 "2018-02-24T22:14:02Z")
Or you can go with 3 or 4 of those > **[Amazon.com : BLOOMSPECT 600W LED Grow Light for Indoor Greenhouse Hydroponic...](https://www.amazon.com/BLOOMSPECT-Indoor-Greenhouse-Hydroponic-Switches/dp/B01N55HFVI?tag=ilovegrowingm-20)** > > You won't need the sun with this high powered competitively priced 600W LED grow light that help keep any of your indoor gardening and hydroponics plants healthy and strong.The BS600 is suitable for all stages of plant growth, flowering and fruiting.... > [@Nepa](#): > > However, if the Vipra 's spectrum graph is shown with “all switch turnon” is it possible to adjust red wavelength for higher output? Isn’t red light output “maxed out” on graph distribution? Not necessarly, the blue spectrum are more energetic than the red spectrum and can affect the reading, but it’s true that they give a lot of blue spectrum, probably because they have 3 channel spectrum, blue, red and white. The white will put some more blue spectrum, anyway, you can easily dim the blue spectrum 😉 … @Nepa ---
**Author:** ![Nepa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@Nepa](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nepa)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/12 "2018-02-24T22:23:00Z")
Thanks @Niala … I haven’t seen those before. Looks like that might be a good value / selection for my needs. You’re the best! ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/13 "2018-02-24T22:30:05Z")
@Nepa You’re welcome, it’s always a pleasure to help a fellow grower’s 😀 😉 😇 ✌ ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/14 "2018-02-24T23:04:20Z")
Yes. Depend on your budget @Impala64 Here’s some suggestions 2 to 4 of those [https://www.amazon.com/G8LED-Watt-Flowering-BOOST-Light/dp/B005ZTJ980?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/G8LED-Watt-Flowering-BOOST-Light/dp/B005ZTJ980?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) 4 to 6 of those [https://www.amazon.com/Niello-Lights-Indoor-Flowering-Fruiting/dp/B075NY2L65?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/Niello-Lights-Indoor-Flowering-Fruiting/dp/B075NY2L65?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) 6 to 8 of those [https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Booster-Flowering-Spectrum-Enhancement/dp/B071Z12H67?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Booster-Flowering-Spectrum-Enhancement/dp/B071Z12H67?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) 8 to 10 of those [https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Booster-Flowering-Spectrum-Enhancement/dp/B01H2Y5U4M?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Booster-Flowering-Spectrum-Enhancement/dp/B01H2Y5U4M?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) Hoping that’s helping you Impala… If you have further questions, please, do not hesitate to ask 😀 ~Al ✌ 😇 ---
**Author:** ![HornHead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hornhead/32/267986_2.png) [@HornHead](https://ilgmforum.com/u/HornHead)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/15 "2018-02-24T23:27:38Z")
@Nepa I use all roleadro and am very happy with them so far. But I been looking at the recordcent grow light. That one looks really nice ---
**Author:** ![Impala64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Impala64](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Impala64)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/16 "2018-02-25T00:29:04Z")
@Niala thank you ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/17 "2018-02-25T02:32:29Z")
You’re welcome @Impala64 ---
**Author:** ![Rexx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/rexx/32/86889_2.png) [@Rexx](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Rexx)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/18 "2018-02-26T02:30:43Z")
I have two of these lights they work great [https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B019ETLC7M?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B019ETLC7M?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) ---
**Author:** ![TakSiX-420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/taksix-420/32/84499_2.png) [@TakSiX-420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/TakSiX-420)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/19 "2018-02-26T23:17:50Z")
What’s up? What size is your tent? ---
**Author:** ![Rexx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/rexx/32/86889_2.png) [@Rexx](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Rexx)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981/20 "2018-02-27T02:36:22Z")
@TakSiX-420 I have a 48"x48"x80" tent. [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/led-lighting-choices-help-please/17981.md?page=2)