# Leaf damage so early **URL:** \ **Category:** Autoflowers\ **Created:** [April 9, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400 "2020-04-09T11:09:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/1 "2020-04-09T11:09:44Z")
6 week old blueberryauto , soil is happy frog , no nutes yet ,only water w/cal mag. 80 degrees with lighs on 77 when off, humidity is rangs between 40 and 50 %. Lights are 13 on 11 off ![20200409_055849](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/9/f/59f828bf82521b4befb07a09487f4c8b65dc1a79.jpeg) ![20200409_060116](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/1/5/0/150456e85265608756f82f20f7a006031dd3a68f.jpeg) ![20200409_060129](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/b/c/d/bcd0ab6157970e86c57ec3a0658bc7b5f4aab344.jpeg) ![20200409_060135](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/e/3/e/e3e3b7f861aaa9e8a76708afa243ab4d41d80683.jpeg)just watered yesterday and didn’t see this, looks to be lower leafs ---
**Author:** ![Oldguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/oldguy/32/389947_2.png) [@Oldguy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Oldguy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/2 "2020-04-09T11:21:40Z")
@Tinman. Personally I’d check ph and tds numbers of runoff to get a better idea of what’s going on. What are the ph and ppm ‘s going in ? ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/3 "2020-04-09T11:42:20Z")
Haven’t really checked tds , ph is usually right around 6.4 going in, haven’t checked run off yet either, i’ll check runoff next watering ---
**Author:** ![Oldguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/oldguy/32/389947_2.png) [@Oldguy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Oldguy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/4 "2020-04-09T11:46:09Z")
Keep me posted please. Like to see end results. 😉👍✌ ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/5 "2020-04-09T11:49:12Z")
Will do ,appreciate the info. 🤞 ---
**Author:** ![VTGROW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/vtgrow/32/262306_2.png) [@VTGROW](https://ilgmforum.com/u/VTGROW)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/6 "2020-04-09T13:58:19Z")
Oldguy is right on track. Those numbers will tell a lot. The other plant in pic far right back has some issues too because leaves look like they are starting to curl down toward soil. Ph is most likely outta wack cause some deficiencies but could also be off because they need nutes. ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/7 "2020-04-11T02:51:12Z")
First questions I would ask too. Also wonder if they are touching soil any when fan blows across them? For whatever reason that makes leaves ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/8 "2020-04-11T11:38:09Z")
You are right ,The one I pulled was touching the soil, thanks , probably going to give them some food here shortly, switching from fox farm trio to general hydroponics ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/9 "2020-04-11T13:00:53Z")
![20200411_075852](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/7/9/7/797787744da16d2c0e498faa3e6744c1ec081fb8.jpeg) first feed, 6.5 ph and 490 ppms ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/10 "2020-04-11T13:57:43Z")
Imo if you’re going to gh you should look up Lucas formula. I have never used gh, but the members that do and use Lucas formula always seem to have it dialed. If I had known you were looking to switch, I probably would have recommended Jack’s 321. Its powdered but goes a long way and easy to use. ---
**Author:** ![VTGROW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/vtgrow/32/262306_2.png) [@VTGROW](https://ilgmforum.com/u/VTGROW)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/11 "2020-04-11T15:47:28Z")
@Tinman Is that your runoff? If so, ppms are way too low. ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/12 "2020-04-11T18:04:20Z")
No, its of the food ---
**Author:** ![Hellraiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hellraiser/32/294013_2.png) [@Hellraiser](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hellraiser)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/13 "2020-04-11T20:58:08Z")
Is that half dose? Seems quite low for bloom feed ppm. ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/14 "2020-04-11T20:59:57Z")
Yes, half dose ---
**Author:** ![VTGROW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/vtgrow/32/262306_2.png) [@VTGROW](https://ilgmforum.com/u/VTGROW)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/15 "2020-04-11T22:12:20Z")
@Tinman You really need a runoff reading of ph and ppm to see where you are at. ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/16 "2020-04-11T22:53:16Z")
I’ll do it tonight and see where iam at ---
**Author:** ![VTGROW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/vtgrow/32/262306_2.png) [@VTGROW](https://ilgmforum.com/u/VTGROW)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/17 "2020-04-11T22:56:10Z")
Cool Let us know. I usually adjust appropriately right after. My best plants came from when I had the time to pay this close attention and feed appropriately immediately after. ---
**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/18 "2020-04-12T00:44:33Z")
@dbrn32 @VTGROW @Oldguy @Hellraiser ![20200411_194227](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/8/d/3/8d3ac124a8adc1e149aeae1ce3dedd1f5c44a18b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![VTGROW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/vtgrow/32/262306_2.png) [@VTGROW](https://ilgmforum.com/u/VTGROW)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/19 "2020-04-12T01:14:02Z")
Ok bro… time to at least double your feeds. Heaviest on the bloom nutes. ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400/20 "2020-04-12T01:46:20Z")
I agree, unless your runoff numbers are extremely high you should probably be feeding a lot more. [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/leaf-damage-so-early/42400.md?page=2)