# Jacks 321 where?

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037>\
**Category:** Nutrients\
**Created:** [December 9, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037 "2022-12-09T21:06:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cfpdadto3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@Cfpdadto3](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Cfpdadto3)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/1 "2022-12-09T21:06:23Z")

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Where do you buy this stuff? I’ve check their website but it’s more than just 321 so now I’m lost. Any help please?

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**Author:** ![Deepsix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/deepsix/32/855169_2.png) [@Deepsix](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deepsix)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/2 "2022-12-09T21:17:43Z")

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I get mine off eBay 6lb kit.

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**Author:** ![Cfpdadto3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@Cfpdadto3](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Cfpdadto3)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/3 "2022-12-09T21:20:30Z")

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Okay, the a b and Epsom?

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**Author:** ![Deepsix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/deepsix/32/855169_2.png) [@Deepsix](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Deepsix)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/4 "2022-12-09T21:21:10Z")

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Yes about 33.00

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**Author:** ![Fieldofdreams](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/fieldofdreams/32/688813_2.png) [@Fieldofdreams](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Fieldofdreams)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/5 "2022-12-09T21:27:11Z")

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@Cfpdadto3 Amazon has a selection

[https://www.amazon.com/s?k=jacks+321&ref=nb\_sb\_noss?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/s?tag=ilovegrowingm-20&k=jacks+321&ref=nb_sb_noss%3Ftag%3Dgreenrel-20)

_edited to add tag to link_

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**Author:** ![Ickey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/43a26b/32.png) [@Ickey](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Ickey)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/6 "2022-12-09T21:56:30Z")

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Check at grow green Michigan website. They sell Jacks at a discount, and have all of Jacks products.

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**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/7 "2022-12-09T23:08:40Z")

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Growgreen MI is out of stock.

I checked amazon - too expensive.

Jack’s A & B pictured is from Esbenshades Garden Centers

Go to walmart cvs or walgreens for epsom salt

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**Author:** ![Spiney\_norman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/spiney_norman/32/240878_2.png) [@Spiney\_norman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Spiney_norman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/8 "2022-12-10T00:26:17Z")

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> [@beardless](#):
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> Esbenshades Garden Centers

They routinely deeply discount Jack on their eBay store for a day or two.  
Nearly half price at times.

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**Author:** ![sandune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/sandune/32/623004_2.png) [@sandune](https://ilgmforum.com/u/sandune)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/9 "2022-12-10T03:13:09Z")

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When I changed over I ordered from Amazon. Ordered the big bags of A,B and Epsom Salt. Ive got enough for 900 seeds I think!!!

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**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/10 "2022-12-10T03:20:14Z")

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Amazon. I bought 25 pounds of a and b for 150$

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**Author:** ![Ickey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/43a26b/32.png) [@Ickey](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Ickey)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/11 "2022-12-10T03:27:31Z")

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Just looked at growgreen Michigan website, they have it in stock, and 25 pounds of A & B is $119 with free shipping. Also the 2 pound bags are $20 each.

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**Author:** ![Blackrose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackrose/32/784942_2.png) [@Blackrose](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Blackrose)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/12 "2022-12-10T03:31:28Z")

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Quick question with the jacks gang. Im using tap water so i got the part A recommend for it.  
Instead of 321… should i be using 5 2 1? Am i reading correctly 🤔

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**Author:** ![Outlaw](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/outlaw/32/726558_2.png) [@Outlaw](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Outlaw)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 4:31am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/13 "2022-12-10T04:31:18Z")

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I use tap water and RO water. I use a, b and Epsom salt. If you get the one made for tap water (15-5-20) thats all you need if I’m remembering right. It’s an all in one nutrient. You don’t need part b. Some people say add a little epsom salt, but it’s supposed to have all the magnesium you need. So you just add 5.05 grams per gallon and you’re good to go.

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**Author:** ![brownsfan100](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/brownsfan100/32/907435_2.png) [@brownsfan100](https://ilgmforum.com/u/brownsfan100)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 4:51am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/14 "2022-12-10T04:51:22Z")

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@Ickey has you covered 👍

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**Author:** ![Graysin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/graysin/32/546358_2.png) [@Graysin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Graysin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/15 "2022-12-10T04:52:10Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/7/2/07207193ace7507816e2d530bc73d0b6ae45f4bc.jpeg)  
GrowGreenMI is where I get mine. Free shipping and bulk is cheeaaaaap.

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**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/16 "2022-12-10T13:12:01Z")

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> [@Blackrose](#):
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> Am i reading correctly

The schedule you posted is for 15-5-20. This is referred to as Jack’s TAP formula. It is designed to be used with tap or well water.  
For a gallon of mix use 5 grams of 15-5-20 and 1 gram of epsom salt. Mix thoroughly, ph, check ppm and adjust accordingly.  
It is not the common 321 formula

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**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/17 "2022-12-10T13:18:35Z")

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> [@Spiney\_norman](#):
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> They routinely deeply discount Jack on their eBay

did not know that. When I first switched to Jack’s 321 I searched and it had the best price with shipping for 25# bags. I try to find what I need locally first then anywhere but amazon if I can.

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**Author:** ![beardless](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/beardless/32/275814_2.png) [@beardless](https://ilgmforum.com/u/beardless)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/18 "2022-12-10T13:44:24Z")

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> [@sandune](#):
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> Ive got enough for 900 seeds I think!!!

A while ago I did the math. How many gallons can I get from 25# bags using 3.6 / 2.4 / 1.2 grams per gallon. I rounded and used 450 grams per pound

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/6/f/6/6f6bf5d07ba8d1d657c8c124d6f1d5d2dbea966a.png)

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**Author:** ![Blackrose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackrose/32/784942_2.png) [@Blackrose](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Blackrose)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/19 "2022-12-10T13:45:45Z")

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Awesome. Appreciate it man

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**Author:** ![Ickey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/43a26b/32.png) [@Ickey](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Ickey)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/jacks-321-where/96037/20 "2022-12-10T13:46:50Z")

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@beardless I like your local first approach. I only buy from Amazon as a last resort also. Hate the way they let the vendors lie about the products, and take advantage of the new grower.

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