Towards photos!!!
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This is why I wanted to get a bunch of reg seeds to see how far they can be pushed. I can tell you for certain in the first month they die rly easy lmfao but that’s my fault… Over water, low rh lights at 100% 10 inches away… But threw all that I’ve learned a lot. Ive already started using super cropping on my Reveg to open the node sites.
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@kaptain3d @DanB so I maintain these conditions and it’s good for both the autoflower and photo??
The light is set to 100% intensity at 15" above photo canopy which puts the autoflower at 16" because the photo is an inch taller plant. The intensity increase from 73% to 100% increased the temperatures thereby the VPD has held steady at 1.2 VPD and the rh in the 60 percentile mostly steady around 64%rh. Does this sound about right?? And @kaptain3d I must applaud the video link you posted because that was amazing albeit terrifying, I’m all for it. Question for anyone involved?? At which point should I begin the trellis treatment? And should I wait until the stalk increases its size such as thickness before cropping?? And a node is the point of the stalk where the branches grow from out of the main stalk right?? I’m going to listen to @Lostgirl when she says give it the same conditions and allow it another 2 weeks and check the progress of the photo. Makes sense. Due to the advice @kaptain3d about cropping which involve nodes and squeezing (carefully) and breaking branches. I’m going to watch that video a lot more because I’m unsure yet exactly where to break those branches and at what intervals upwards the branch as well as which branches to crop. Still a little confused about that. Listening to everyone here it seems that photos are the way to go for the scientific and analytical type of thoughts while the autos will keep you in smoke while teasing mother nature. So, I think that if I get a close up of the main stalk ya’ll can help me figure out how many true branches are growing off the main stalk. Remember that it’s 16 weeks old. I’m going to grab a cup of coffee and start my day but will post close ups in a few.
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This one it’s lovely and 1.7 days looks like the right size.
Regarding pistol or not what can you get from that?? She is flowering but you get probably a splf out of that, no worth the efford.
The other one looks great so it looks like you know what you are doing,
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This is my second crop and i did some topping and training branches, nothing to extreme but i need to lear.
Of course, I snapped a top 
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Easy there wild horse! 
That’s a lot of questions, which is fine, but I’ll come back to it, 
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So, I’m watching the cropping video on the Kyle Kushman technique for cropping and I’ve come up with a question 
. @ACMilan @kaptain3d can you be more clear. Opening up the node areas to light is the first step right? When cropping? I see that the plants he’s cropping are miles away from lighting. Meaning it appears that the lights are at the top of his grow room and was wondering if that matters?? Should I raise the light to the top of my tent? I’ve got its height at 15" above canopy with 100% intensity. That has dialed in the veg environment conditions that seem to hold steady with everything in order. @ACMilan were you saying that I should abandon my photo and focus on the autoflower for now?? I think after a trial run for 2 weeks will better give us an idea for it’s next remedies??? Does everything agree?? I see the photo in just 3 days has had a growth spurt that can be recognized with the eye. I’m interested in finding out at which point do I introduce the trellis and just to be clear I’m waiting for the 4th to 6th node to appear before cropping right???
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Not necessarily. I keep my lights about 18 to 24 inches from the canopy, others keep their lights at their highest point but play with the intensity.
Yes. When grown normally, the nutrients travels first to the “main” cola of the main stem, then it goes to the lower nodes and their buds. It’s called Apical dominance. When you supercrop, you change that dominance.
So, if you supercrop a branch, the top cola becomes a “regular” bud on equal footing to all the buds at the same height. So instead of having on huge cola and several little buds, you’ll get several buds, slightly smaller than that cola would have been, but bigger than the “regular” buds would have been… 
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I would suggest against this for now. You don’t really need a net when you supercrop. For both methods, you want to keep all the canopy on an equal level.
@MadamCalamity does wonders with the scrogs if you want some examples.
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Abandon the 18-week-old that went to hell already and concentrate on the 17-day-old.
And yes, 3 days you can recognise something.
The 18 weeks freak and the 17 days are almost the same size; doesn’t that tell you something?
Far too early for you to worry about trellis, and that video of supercropping won’t be of any interest to you now, if ever.p
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What’s wrong with you, @kaptain3d ??
Showing such violence to a newby
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@ACMilan…thanks.
Above are the pics of the maybe photo. The soil is still moist after 4 days but I believe I can see 4 node areas but the plant isn’t bushy enough to start cropping I’m not sure though. It does look too busy by being crowded but it’s not fat enough (I think it’s too small) to withstand anything yet. I do see the branches that contain two branches right off each other and one is darker more purple than the other which is vibrant green and pretty. It’s my belief that the darker branch is a branch I’ll eventually remove because it seems that it’ll only develop as a leaf while the other looks like it’ll give more branches off of it. The darker branch stem looks like it’ll only grow the single leaf. The other looks like it’ll grow crazily with more options. But it’s crowded inside up close and I think I need to wait for more progress and questions and advice. Pictures below are just a updated version of autoflower Moonberry Kushrocks. SOB is growing fast.
Can anyone zoom in on the photo and advise on the nodes seen and my query about being crowded with little growth everywhere on it??? Thanks everyone for everything
ya’ll are awesome!!!
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That first plant is probably not a photo.
She’s flowering already.
Even if she was a photo, supercropping during flowering is not really recommended. You can do it if you’re pressed for space, but it will be detrimental to the final harvest…
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As @ACMilan suggests @kaptain3d should I abandon the first plant or drop another bean of autoflower White Widow?? Or should I concentrate on the one plant in the 2nd photos. Will 2 autos produce under a 100w light? Or just the one already there by following @ACMilan and ditching the first plant??? I guess what I’m asking is can two autos grow under 100w lighting?? Doggone it!! I hate to kill my first attempt 
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That’s not ideal, but you have to use what you’ve got.
Mind you, I used to grow 3 photo plants under a Mars-Hydro 1000… which is basically a 100w.
And as far as keeping the first plant… I would keep her to “play” and experiment with, but I would give the new girl the central spot under the light.
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@kaptain3d. Well spoken and yes sir. Thanks. That’s exactly what I shall do. Experiment and focus on Moonberry Kushrocks. She’s already in a 5gl grow pot and just 18,19 days old but fat!!! I can smell the plants even at this small size. Mmmmm.
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@Venturi…Good morning my friend. Looks like I’ll focus on the Moonberry Kushrocks and experiment with the Wedding Cake. You’ve been the central advisor for this autoflower and I have the environmental conditions steady and at good levels. I’ll order the difuser Tuesday and the buffer additive and recalibrate the ph/ and EC meter and I think it’s all a go. The photos are an attractive option that, after I’ve used the beans on hand I’ll try.
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These numbers are constant. Are they acceptable?? For the Moonberry Kushrocks?? It’s 100% intensity and 16" from light at center of tent with light directly above…
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The maybe one? There are more?? 
Listen to me, you are making it too complicated; right now, you don’t need to know most of the things you are asking. Just stick with the basics for now, environment, nutrients, lights, get them a bit bigger then flip them 12/12
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you got a bunch of good advice from ppl, im going to back out here and lurk/watch how your grow goes happy growing growbro
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