# I have a light question **URL:** \ **Category:** Autoflowers\ **Created:** [August 8, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101 "2020-08-08T17:00:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/22 "2020-08-10T19:35:39Z")
Could you elaborate on that? ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/23 "2020-08-10T19:44:37Z")
Imo, mars hydro just another company using cheap components and making advertising claims that their products don’t seem to deliver. Not sure what else there is to elaborate on ---
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/24 "2020-08-10T20:57:51Z")
Where would you place them in comparison to Spider Farmer? ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/25 "2020-08-10T21:01:56Z")
Spider farmer is probably better, but may vary by model. I seen some of those sf lights with elg drivers and laughed out loud, for real. Would be a lot easier to form fair opinion on both if they posted third party integrated sphere data like the companies they rip off. Until they do, will always be 2nd rate knock offs in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/26 "2020-08-10T21:16:08Z")
Are there any quantum boards you would suggest that come in below the HLG price point? ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/27 "2020-08-10T21:48:15Z")
I have no idea who is offering what or the prices right now. Pacific light concepts, chilled tech, and cutter electronics all have products i would recommend. Maybe even ahead of what hlg is currently offering. ---
**Author:** ![patchman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/patchman/32/386688_2.png) [@patchman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/patchman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/28 "2020-08-10T22:25:39Z")
I can look but I think I am going to have to stand down. I read where HGL can’t make enough to keep up with demand. I know the 135 is out of stock right now at growers house. I really appreciate you doing all this. I dont want to take any more of your time on it. If I come across anything in the future where I need your help I will reach out to you. I make $1200 a month, and I dont think I am going to be able to afford it right now. If that changes and I win the lottery I will be back in touch. I will need to know where to send your share to, LOL ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/29 "2020-08-10T22:34:47Z")
I wouldn’t spend another nickel at growers house personally. Worst customer service I have dealt with in the industry. Placed order 2 weeks ago, hasn’t shipped, no correspondence, and hasn’t responded to my email. I understand your position, but sharing my experience. Horticulture lighting group has them in stock you can order direct, and I know 10% code will work there. ---
**Author:** ![patchman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/patchman/32/386688_2.png) [@patchman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/patchman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/30 "2020-08-10T22:39:12Z")
thank you sir. Let me do some exploring and some saving and I will be back in touch. Do you just use the mfc website to order or is there another retailer you use? ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/31 "2020-08-10T22:41:53Z")
You’ll probably get fastest service from going direct. ---
**Author:** ![patchman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/patchman/32/386688_2.png) [@patchman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/patchman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/32 "2020-08-10T22:42:21Z")
cut out the middle man! ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/33 "2020-08-10T22:43:27Z")
They have retail agreements, usually about the same price. But retailers have been pretty slow since the rona stuff. ---
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/34 "2020-08-11T17:26:43Z")
If either of you are interested Pat O’Brien has a “Best Lights Under $200” series that compares the SF1000, TS1000, HLG65, and HLG100. ---
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/35 "2020-08-11T17:32:04Z")
Here is how he ranked them, based on output, coverage, and spectrum. ![Screenshot_20200811-123102](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/6/7/0/67088283206bdc027dab62fa33623c4566d139be.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![patchman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/patchman/32/386688_2.png) [@patchman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/patchman)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/36 "2020-08-11T19:05:27Z")
Thank you very much! ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/37 "2020-08-12T02:23:49Z")
I went and watched half of first video, dude cracks me up. Mars ts1000 wins and has effective flowering footprint of 6"x6"? ---
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/38 "2020-08-12T03:11:34Z")
You must have watched a different video than I did. I don’t think he claimed any of them would effectively flower more than about 2½x2½ and backed up everything he said with data. ---
**Author:** ![patchman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/patchman/32/386688_2.png) [@patchman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/patchman)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/39 "2020-08-12T03:30:47Z")
@dbrn32, I didn’t see anything like that. MARS says it is only good for a maximum 3x3 veg, and a 2.5x2.5 for flower. There is no way i would that light for a 6x6. The numbers I saw were not too bad. 18" I think it was 500’s and 600’s. @ 24" ,the numbers dropped into the 400’s in the 3x3 square. I am not looking for the gold standard in lighting. Just an improvement over my blurple light that did get me 2.76 oz with a pot for pot and blueberry auto. I will likely just have to save up and get a suitable light for a 3x3 tent when I can. Thanks again everyone, I really do appreciate all your input on this. ---
**Author:** ![AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/aloysiusdevadanderabercrombie/32/359851_2.png) [@AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie](https://ilgmforum.com/u/AloysiusDevadanderAbercrombie)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/40 "2020-08-12T03:33:50Z")
See if you can find some of @kaptain3d’s grows. He uses the Mars. ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101/41 "2020-08-12T04:52:25Z")
Did you guys read what I typed > [@dbrn32](#): > > 6"x6 6 inches, not feet. I think about 13:45 in this video. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/d/2/4d2727980420ec1cb65e1813d00525b52969ca1b.jpeg "Best LED Grow Lights (Under $200)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpRt8zzqi6o) Important to differentiate here that I’m just reciting his words lol. I don’t know this guy either. He may be great at growing weed, or maybe just coaching others on how to grow weed. But his knowledge on lighting, lighting tools, and pretty much everything related seems pretty weak. Therefore, it’s my opinion this stuff should be taken with grain of salt. He is clearly rocking a bunch of cheap lighting fixtures in that room, maybe free stuff he gets for having 17k subscribers and claiming the Mars ts1000 is best grow light under $200. We’ve seen this stuff time and time again. He’s not sure what ratcheting hangers are, can’t pronounce spectrometer or apogee, or use an infrared thermometer properly. Any of which would be good indication to scrutinize quality of information he’s passing along, as far as I’m concerned. [Previous page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101.md?page=1) [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/i-have-a-light-question/51101.md?page=3)