Also you said at 60% RH or lower. There is a good chance the of the room was often over 60%, making your point moot. Realistically, the humidity probably fluctuated, as it was not humidity controlled nor did we even measure it.
All I know is it felt really damp in there. And I know it took a long time to dry. I also know I go based on snap test, you consider yours dry before it passes snap test. So that may also be a factor - you consider yours dry at a higher moisture content than I do.
Regardless, you seem to have completely derailed this thread like a troll and successfully got us off on a very very long tangent. This thread was not created to discuss (or argue about) the length of drying time and various factors involved for cannabis. If you wish to discuss such matters, please create your own thread instead of trolling mine. This thread was created to discuss the relationship between boveda humidity packs and their effects on aroma. This was not a thread about cannabis drying in general but you completely derailed it and made it all about that. This is the last time I am discussing it with you.
However, I did consult the oracle at Google so I can pimp slap you around a bit with some cold hard facts. I already knew some of these facts, but was trying to let you believe your bullshit instead of arguing with you. But at this point you pissed me off and I will no longer sugar coat my words with you.
Also you still never showed us the pictures of your baby dick size plants that dry in less than a week with the whole plant hanging upside down. Please show me so I can laugh at you and your lame plants.
Here are the google queries.
According to Google, whole plant upside down can take weeks. Also according to Google - temperature and humidity level effect drying time. If you want to keep arguing, please argue with Google.
I already had posted some pictures from my harvest here. I wasn’t holding back on you.
Here is a picture of my Durban Poison right around end of veg and beginning of preflower, before I pruned off much foliage or harvested any branches (some of the later pics it looks a little smaller for those reasons).
Those tomato cages you see in the picture are 4 feet tall. They are only a fraction of the total height of the plant, barely even passing above the base of the plant. The width of the canopy at the base was roughly 8 feet. I don’t know exactly how tall it was, but even when I would stand on top of a chair I could not touch anywhere near the top of the plant with my arms stretched above my head. Pruning that thing was a fucking nightmare. But I suppose having a plant that grows unmanagably large is a good problem to have.
It was basically a fucking house. My chickens used to like hanging out under it. Had to chase them away because they would start scratching away at the roots. Naughty girls!
Here is an Orange Poison (orange juice bud x Durban poison) that I grew in NY this year. The greenhouse frame that it’s in is 7.5 feet tall from the dirt in the raised bed. The plant was just over 9 foot tall when done flowering and 12 feet wide. Total end yield was 2153 grams or just shy of 4 3/4 pounds.
When I cut the plant down I used a chainsaw to get through the 4 inch stalk then hung the entire plant minus the big fan leaves in a friends garage that was a controlled 60f and 58%rh. Took 18 days to dry to my liking which is crispy outside and once it’s jarred I evens out to about 63-65% then gets burped daily on screens for 15 minutes for a week to get to 58-62% for long term curing and storage.
Obviously temps and humidity in the drying environment play a role together in how long it will take plants to dry properly and so does plant size as well as how much biomass is left on the plant while drying. I take all the long fan leaves that I can off and leave anything that is touching the buds on. The smaller plants I grew took a few days less to dry and they were in the same garage.
Instead of getting annoyed/frustrated or angry about this, why don’t you guys just agree to disagree. We’re all entitled to our own opinions and we all have different styles/methods and preferences when growing, drying and curing. Neither way is wrong just not what each other are used to or do themselves. Anger and frustration is not what this community is about. We help, guide and support each other here and we try to do it while keeping our language appropriate to not cause a rise in anyone. Conversation and debate are wonderful and much needed but keep it clean please.
Lies, cannabis only takes one week to dry. It is not possible that it took you 18 days because if you had a different experience than somebody else then you must be lying.
What do you guys propose is the best temp and humidity to keep them in to dry at a moderate rate? Also what do you suggest for curing burp lids, boveda packs, grove bags? Last question what size jars do you guys dry in I cant imagine you have hella 16 oz jars when you end up with over 2 lbs of dry bud
I do in fact have closets and drawers filled with mason jars. In previous years, I always used mason jars and for many years this was widely accepted as the best way to cure.
After hearing all this stuff about Grove Bags I decided to try them too. I ended up getting a bunch of quarter pound bags from a company named Kure Bags. I will also cure some in mason jars the way I habe traditionally done to compare.
I think the best humidity for drying is 40 to 50 percent roughly. The ideal humidity for curing bud is 58 to 62 percent humidity, which is why bovedas for cannabis have two options - 58 and 62. I used to prefer 62 as it will technically preserve more terpenes and keep the bud slightly moist - which I prefer since I smoke bowls and bongs these days rather than blunts and joints. However, I have come to prefer my bud to be slightly dryer and find that if stored in a warm area 62 percent is more likely to cause bud to spoil. If you can keep all of your product in a perfectly temperature controlled environment then 62 won’t be an issue but I feel higher moisture causes more problems with fluctuations in temperature. I only rent a bedroom here and I have to share the refrigerator with multiple people, so keeping my many mason jars temperature controlled is not an option for me. I hear refrigerator is ideal for storing bud.
Long story short I think 58 percent is better for curing. Some people recommend drying at humidity levels as high as 55 percent, but it your target is 58 percent that may take a long time at 55 if your plants are huge. Below 40 percent and you may dry them too quickly resulting in degradation of terpenes. I think someone in this thread argued with me about that but there is research on the subject. One of the main reasons to use bovedas is to prevent degradation of terpenes - because changes in humidity and especially very quick drying out can cause terpene loss.
I used to use bovedas religiously, but of course the reason I wrote this post is because I notice the humidity packs seem to often cause weaker aroma. I want to do some more experimentation. If you get bud that is bone dry, bovedas are a great way to re-moisten them without the problems that come with orange peels. But I’m not so sure it is beneficial to use bovedas when they are not needed and that they might be counterproductive. I feel with perfectly controlled humidity perhaps the plant releases less terpenes, which will preserve them inside of the bud but prevent them from releasing into the container. I feel like maybe the aromas released kind of marinade the bud, making it very fragrant. Whereas when the terpenes are perfectly preserved and do not release, you don’t smell them very much. This is all purely conjecture and I might be dead wrong, but it is my suspicion based on my experiences with the bovedas. I can have a jar of weed that is very fragrant every time I open a jar, then I throw a boveda in there and now when I pop the jar it smells like nothing. In a way it’s probably because the bud is being preserved, but I consider aroma to be part of the entourage effect and so being unable to smell my delicious buds is kind of a buzz kill.
