See, last time that worked perfect. This time the plant counts for me… last time I did more than I was allowed so I didn’t have to wait and wait and wait for the outermost branches to reach through the net. In this case by the time they did I had already tied the center and tallest ones twice each and it was getting too dense to lay them over because they’d just block someone else’s light. The canopy is reasonably even, itbis defoliated hard so all 8-10 inches from cola top till net have at least 400 ppfd of light. The top is more like 900. Under the net the lollipop is utter and complete. A barren wasteland without a single item stealing energy cost. Canopy is not flawless this time, you’re right. But… to have filled 75% of a 4X 4 with just two plants when one is a stubborn plant that refuses to get huge or spread, was quite a feat. I’d have tossed her for that, and for the fact she produces less than half of my other phenos, but dammit… she’s the best and strongest high by a considerable margin. The other of the two is second strongest and grows giant sooo easy. She’s just finicky w nutes and uses a ton of cal mag. But she is well over twice as big and is almost as good. Maybe even better if you like couch lock. Two of her (that I nicknamed orange) can easily train into a 4X4 with the perfect canopy you’d have liked to see. But the damn other girl took forever to do her part and it all overgrew in height. But I still predict good things!
A pic today from each contender. The one at my buddy’s is sunny yellow. It hit 4 complete weeks yesterday. The nodes are tight and chunky bud led by pure white pistils are bursting forth from each site. They appear to swirl around the stem on each, and will eventually fill in solid to form 8-12” top colas.
The picture in white light is The other contender and the plants are built quite differently. On these the nodes are even tighter. You do not get the effect of bud swirling around the stem, it appears to be growing on every millimeter of the stem, but although it is all over it is not nearly as big and chunky on the tops or in the individual nodes when you look closely. There is a much higher leaf material content on the stems of each cola, and the crystal quantity is over double. There are many more colas and a much more even canopy. That said… it still bothers me that the main colas are bigger and chunkier on the sunny yellow plant under the 1,000w HPS. It appears like his will have fewer but giant colas of upper mid quality, and ai will have shorter, skinnier colas, but many many more and much more potent… but which will dominate in weight? Each grow room has two plants.
Weight or potency…which one do you prefer?
Depends on what it’s for overall, but mostly potency. I really wanted to see how much science plays a role. Also extra details. By genetics the sunny yellow plants will win over the others in like conditions weight wise hands down. But they slow down a lot week 6-7. The others will probably win overall in weight just because of all the CO2, controllers, and so many other details, but it will be a hard race. The low tech girls are no slouch though… 7-8.5 in potency in my estimation. The other girl is a 8.5-9.5. Not a huge diff. If my prediction comes true I will end up with a much greater number of smaller colas that are significantly frostier and more potent than my friend will. I bet I get 1.2-1.6 lbs and he gets 1.0 ish.
How is the co2 I dispersed from the tank
There is a see-through tubing that goes up to the ceiling above the plants. It forms a loop at the top like a cowboy’s lasso, and connects back to itself. Meaning that if it didn’t have all the microscopic holes along the tube’s length no CO2 could get out. But it does have tons of microscopic holes. The tube is held on the ceiling by screwed in U-shaped hooks like you’d use to hold a plant Potter from the ceiling. In this way the CO2 “rains” from the top over the plants as it’s denser than regular air. Then my multiple fans blow it all over in the room. My controller senses how much is in the air and releases more as the plants eat it or it slips under the door. The controller keeps it from 1350-1450ppm. Just perfect for a room with 950 PPFD if light, 1500PPM nutes, 83 degrees F, and currently 58% humidity but heading towards 43% slowly in the next 2 weeks. I have her dialed in perfect. Have to arch carefully for deficiencies because I am driving the plants’ metabolism to their absolute max.
@loki how may watts from the wall are you running?
- With that light only and using my best weight producing genes and all the extras in terms of nute/CO2/heat/humidity, you name it… I hit roughly 2.8 lbs. I’m working with the restriction of a count limit and lower weight producing genes, so it’s anyone’s guess how close to the 2.8 I can get this time! If I near or break 2 I will be stoked!
Amazing! That’s 2g/watt. What’s the mojo juice schedule you have running in the RDWC?
@Loki I have a co2 tank and reg how much does the other osrt cost?
He’s using a Titan controller. Not sure which, but they look pretty sweet.
It’s an incredible light. I give Fluence mad props!
It was called a titan spartan complete.
Not sure why my links don’t look like this…
was looking at that entry level kit.
How long does a 20lb tank last
Depends… for veg at 600 lasts for ages. Almost the entire veg. At 1400 I have to change every 2-3 weeks at $34. But my room is like 8X 8X8. Bigger than most tents people use. Also depends dramatically on how often your fan exhausts the room. When I get mid bloom and drop humidity my humidifier runs a ton. Creates a lot of heat so fan comes on more. Hence quicker CO 2 use/
Actually I’m still in 15 gal Airpots TM with a very fast mix of half promix half roots 707 and tons of added perlite. Next phase is the 35 gallon undercurrent pro. Next run.
Awesome thread - can’t wait to see the results. My moneys on fancy pants! Maybe it would change if you were using trash genetics but I just don’t see how beautiful genes can out perform top environmental conditions. Either way good luck to both setups and I’ll be watching the rest of the way!
Ps I’d like to see the difference with the exact same pheno of the two setups… that way we could see exactly how much difference the added expense of top notch equipment really factors in, especially for a strain like gsce. Is it a 10% increase, or a 1% in weight potency etc… just a thought for a future experiment 