# Fruit punch auto brown leaves **URL:** \ **Category:** Grow Journals\ **Tags:** indoor-grow\ **Created:** [June 8, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971 "2019-06-08T11:15:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/1 "2019-06-08T11:15:28Z")
Help new grower. Getting some brown spots on leaves. Using advanced nutrients micro grow bloom. 4ml per gallon of water. Soil ph is reading 6.9 with meter. 3x3x5 grow tent (1100) wat led. ![image|374x500](upload://p4 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/9/e/9e301d745a04f78a825802eaf7844ca22314e1e9.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/8/6/867b9ca73fdf98f134ad0434a37a0b3e883bce02.jpeg) OSuvbcZU7S58hJsrXhs1EoP13.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nicky](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/nicky/32/397422_2.png) [@Nicky](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Nicky)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/2 "2019-06-08T11:41:10Z")
Leafs look a little floppy to eh… Ph is right on the upper limit (not that this is causing your issue) What type of soil are you using? And what’s the age of the plant? Do you have TDS run off readings after a regular watering? Looking like phosphorus by the chart, possibly mag but doesn’t look quite like it. ![KRuFnY4-1022x1024](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/f/4/f44677cd710d438e079f6c5730d8f477b3503518.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/3 "2019-06-08T12:10:16Z")
Yes watered them yesterday and in the morning the seem floppy. Fox farm strawberry fields about a month old. No tds readings not sure how to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Jbum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/jbum/32/217912_2.png) [@Jbum](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Jbum)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/4 "2019-06-08T12:14:40Z")
Welcome @Bsave76! Lots of great help here! You may want to fill out a ticket as it will give people trying to help you a better understanding. I will attach a link for you as well as another one for deficiency help. > [@ILGM Grow Support Ticket](https://ilgmforum.com/t/ilgm-grow-support-ticket/1458): > > [support-ticket] Latewood’s original ILGM Grow Support ticket I came up with the ILGM “Support Ticket” years ago in order to help new membersto easily provide the necessary information to the community mentors, and our ILGM Moderators so we could provide informed advice to help you grow successfully. Experienced community members and expert staff will be better informed and more capable of providing a more informed answers to your questions once hey have an idea of what you are doing. COPY/P… > [@Deficiencies with pics, descriptions and remedies](https://ilgmforum.com/t/deficiencies-with-pics-descriptions-and-remedies/31262): > > Found these to be useful so I compiled the pics and descriptions and wanted to post as it may help y’all as well. I don’t know if the remedies are spot on but more experienced folks may chime in. Hope it helps!! Jbum Hope these help and good luck! Jbum ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/5 "2019-06-08T12:24:34Z")
- What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed fruit punch auto - Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF Soil fox farms strawberry fields - Vessels: Pots, Grow beds, Buckets, Troths Cloth pot - PH of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable) Advanced nutrient ph perfect - PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable Do not know - Indoor or Outdoor Indoor - Light system Led 1100 - Temps; Day, Night Day 85 night 79 - Humidity; Day, Night 45-60 - Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size Yes - AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier, Cool mist - Co2; Yes, No Co2 bag ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/6 "2019-06-08T12:25:27Z")
Thank you ---
**Author:** ![EclecticJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/eclecticjack/32/66042_2.png) [@EclecticJack](https://ilgmforum.com/u/EclecticJack)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/7 "2019-06-08T13:02:05Z")
I know I will get debate for this, but I think Advanced Nutrients are the problem. I wouldn’t use AN on my tomato plant much less cannabis. You’re the second person this month to show brown crusty leaves while using AN. I had the same issue when I used AN. I threw out my entire lot and switched. I would flush and go with a very, very low percentage of feed. Keep in mind, I did rant on AN without knowing your run-off or general PPMs! Sorry, just woke up, haven’t smoked yet LOL. (Get a pH meter for checking liquid, not soil) ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/8 "2019-06-08T13:08:30Z")
I have one has been 6.3-6.5 when I checked. Will check current water ---
**Author:** ![latewood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@latewood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/latewood)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/9 "2019-06-10T19:11:55Z")
The thing is; Even though you are using the AN PH perfect stuff…you need to know what the PH and TDS or EC is. Otherwise, you have no clue as to what is going on. ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/10 "2019-06-14T00:12:29Z")
OK so if I did my test right now I am at 6.3 PH with a PPM of 312. EC of 718 ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/11 "2019-06-14T00:29:43Z")
OK so if I did my test right now I am at 6.3 PH with a PPM of 312. EC of 718 ---
**Author:** ![Missiles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/missiles/32/877132_2.png) [@Missiles](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Missiles)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/12 "2019-06-14T00:38:31Z")
Is that your numbers going in or is that your runoff numbers? If you can give both sets of numbers your pH and PPM going in and coming out that could help ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/13 "2019-06-14T00:56:53Z")
I took 50/50 soil and distilled water let it sit for 24 hours and the strained it and measured it with a tds meter. Hope that was what I was supposed to do. Novice here ---
**Author:** ![Missiles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/missiles/32/877132_2.png) [@Missiles](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Missiles)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/14 "2019-06-14T01:19:21Z")
It sounds like you did a slurry test. I have never done one of those yet but let me tag a couple others that may have @PurpNGold74 or @elheffe702 can either of you help 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/15 "2019-06-14T01:39:49Z")
Great thank you.still trying to figure this out as I go. This is only my second try at it. ---
**Author:** ![Missiles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/missiles/32/877132_2.png) [@Missiles](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Missiles)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/16 "2019-06-14T01:41:18Z")
We will get you help 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elheffe702](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/elheffe702/32/319856_2.png) [@elheffe702](https://ilgmforum.com/u/elheffe702)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/17 "2019-06-14T06:48:19Z")
Welcome to growing, and to ILGM! The rusty looking spots look like Calcium deficiency to me. What type of water are you using, and what is its pH and PPM before adding nutrients? You may need to use a Calcium/Magnesium supplement. For example, if you’re using distilled water, it has nothing in the way of minerals. If your pH is 6.3, you’re right at the bottom end of the range in which Cannabis can absorb everything it needs. 6.3-6.8 is good, shooting for the sweet spot at 6.5. Calcium and Magnesium (as well as Phosphorus) are best absorbed nearer 6.5 and above, so you may not need to change much else besides the pH. The photos I see are 6 days old. How are they looking today? Some of the droopy leaves look like she might be over watered, maybe heat stress? Can you post more pictures? We’ll get it figured out. Being an auto, she might’ve been stunted a little, hurting the end yield. But I bet you’ll still get some really great smoke, and I guarantee your next one will be even better! ✌ ---
**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 10:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/18 "2019-06-15T10:41:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Bsave76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Bsave76](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bsave76)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/19 "2019-06-15T10:47:09Z")
Distilled water. What would you recommed? If I did my run off test right. Watered till water came out of bottom and then measured the water my ph was 5.6 and ppm was 1700 ec was 3300. I have not been checking the ph of the water going in because advanced nuntrients said it’s ph perfect. But this time I did and it was low like 5.5. So on this feed info I adjusted to 6.5. Thank you all for the help!! ---
**Author:** ![elheffe702](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/elheffe702/32/319856_2.png) [@elheffe702](https://ilgmforum.com/u/elheffe702)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971/20 "2019-06-15T19:22:27Z")
No problem! Let us know how it goes. ✌ [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/fruit-punch-auto-brown-leaves/31971.md?page=2)