# First time Canna butter

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598>\
**Category:** Concentrates\
**Created:** [January 31, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598 "2020-01-31T13:26:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![blackthumbbetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackthumbbetty/32/528626_2.png) [@blackthumbbetty](https://ilgmforum.com/u/blackthumbbetty)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/22 "2020-02-01T06:39:04Z")

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A lot of people use clarified butter, but most of us just buy it pre-clarified as ghee. 😀 Definitely don’t use salted butter/ghee. However, chlorophyll is most definitely fat soluble, as well as water soluble, especially when heated. We use clarified butter for reasons that involve temperature stability and finished texture, plus more fat and less water makes for a stronger infusion.

I do a similar method using a water bath, but I use an electric pressure cooker to cut down infusion time to under an hour. The no-water infusion process is significantly better than most budder recipes, for sure! It makes for a much better flavor.

I usually go with about an ounce of bud per ½ cup ghee/coconut oil. It gets green, as it should, with that much bud. Mmmm-mmmmmm.

> [@Cbd for arthritis](https://ilgmforum.com/t/cbd-for-arthritis/24857/14):
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> You can also try these methods. One is for making coconut oil/budder and the other for tincture. The instant pot budder takes less than 2 hours from start of decarb to usable budder/oil. Here’s the method I follow to make Basic Cannabudder/cocobudder: I use 1oz dried buds per 1/2 cup of coconut oil or ghee. This ends up making enough for 26-30 doses ~ 175mg THC each, depending on strain. Tools: -Oven -2 pint Mason Jars with lids -baking tray -2 oz ice cold Everclear -1/2 cup melted Re…

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**Author:** ![MD\_Herbology](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/md_herbology/32/287116_2.png) [@MD\_Herbology](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MD_Herbology)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/23 "2020-02-01T07:46:55Z")

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@blackthumbbetty  
I must apologize to you for my un detailed explanation of solubility. I did not mean to confuse anyone as I was trying to keep my explanation short and simple.

Blackthumbbetty, yes you are correct you should not use salted butter. If you are referring to my photo I simply used a butter wrapper I pulled off a stick of butter when I made breakfast. It was not my intention to mislead anyone with the word salted in the back of the picture. With that being said if all you have is salted it will work, and you will find a lot of the salt will stay back with the milk solids.

As for chlorophyll, I used the terminology “mostly”.  
But yes chlorophyll is lipid soluble. There are 4 types of chlorophyll but Chlorophyll is represented in most plants as chlorophyll a and chlorophyll b.

Chlorophyll has a porphyrin head with 4 pyrole rings and a (lipid soluble) hydro carbon tail.  
The colors mostly extracted from chlorophyll are green #3 which uses a petroleum based extraction and green # 5 which is a water sol. Acidic form obtained thru alkeline hydrolysis.

With all that being said yes there are properties of the plant soluble in many forms and extracted differently.

During heating, the structure of the leaf collapses, and gas in the leaf escapes. Initially, this brightens the green color, as the gas serves to “cloud” or distort the green color. However, as the gas escapes, some of the internal structures of the leaf are broken down, which disrupts the double membranes of the chloroplast.

Although ordinarily chlorophyll is not readily water soluble, the heat can cause degradation and can cause the long hydrocarbon chain to react and fall off. Once the chlorophyll loses the hydrocarbon chain, it becomes much more water-soluble and will escape into the cooking liquid. This serves primarily to dilute the green color of the leaf.

All the science aside my simple point is that by boiling the plant in water with the butter fat you degrade the plant, release more chlorophyll and it the binds to the butter.

I hope this clarifies that topic.

And to anyone that likes their chlorophyll…yes I am aware that chlorophyll has numerous health benefits. But that’s not what we are going for here. Flavor and appearence that is all.

Happy growing n happy eating to all 👍

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**Author:** ![blackthumbbetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackthumbbetty/32/528626_2.png) [@blackthumbbetty](https://ilgmforum.com/u/blackthumbbetty)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/24 "2020-02-01T08:02:04Z")

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Please cite your sources when you copy and paste info. 😀 We love info, but it’s not appropriate to copy and paste complete text without sharing your source. Google is an excellent learning tool, for sure.

> **[Keeping greens...green - Tasteful Science](http://tastefulscience.com/2015/08/keeping-greens-green/)**
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> The science of cooking leafy, green vegetables. What makes them green, and why, when you cook them, they lose that color. And how you can prevent it,

 ![20200131_225929](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/3/3/533573e0106f58dfffcefc0e97ab242d37e41f09.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![MD\_Herbology](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/md_herbology/32/287116_2.png) [@MD\_Herbology](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MD_Herbology)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/25 "2020-02-01T08:15:54Z")

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Yes a copied a paragraph for ease of explaining, the paragraph simply stated water breaks down structure.

So tell me are you simply looking for things to try n pick people apart. Or are you here to provide beneficial friendly advice.

You pull have so far over analyzed my photo to find a negative “salt” comment.

You have taken a shot at my 3 am lack of scientific brush over solubility to make me provide a clarification.

And now your criticism for not providing a work cited page. 🙄

I guess all I can say is thank you, I will try to do better.

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**Author:** ![MD\_Herbology](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/md_herbology/32/287116_2.png) [@MD\_Herbology](https://ilgmforum.com/u/MD_Herbology)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/26 "2020-02-01T08:17:56Z")

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Nobody wants to see this kind of banter on here, so for the record, I will not respond to this matter here further. Sorry to all whom have to read this.

Ruining the vibe of the feed.

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**Author:** ![blackthumbbetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackthumbbetty/32/528626_2.png) [@blackthumbbetty](https://ilgmforum.com/u/blackthumbbetty)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 8:58am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/27 "2020-02-01T08:58:04Z")

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@Tinman

You’re going to make some wonderful budder, I know it. Please tell us how it goes for you

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**Author:** ![blackthumbbetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackthumbbetty/32/528626_2.png) [@blackthumbbetty](https://ilgmforum.com/u/blackthumbbetty)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/28 "2020-02-01T09:04:38Z")

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I was going to just drop it, but 3 of the paragraphs in your post are pulled fully from other websites. Without citation, that’s just bad form.

This place is a place to learn, share knowledge/experience, and have fun. At no point did I attack you or pick you apart. I pointed out a very blatant fact: you copy and pasted, without citing that you did so.

This is the last I’ll address this issue with you. I promise we will have no farther interaction after this.

Happy growing!

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**Author:** ![LoCoRock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/locorock/32/388502_2.png) [@LoCoRock](https://ilgmforum.com/u/LoCoRock)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/29 "2020-02-01T13:18:32Z")

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All I know is with all this technical jargon chlorophyll a & b, porphyrin, purple rings you guys have somehow taken the fun out of making budder. I just wanna get literally baked and now my brain hurts. I honestly might have to go back to bed… Oh and good morning 🌞 ppl… ![Kz53SU](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/2/2/42228779d2aaeddaf4010037e93c9441474fb29b.gif)

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**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/32 "2020-02-01T15:16:51Z")

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![20200201_091556](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/3/0/a/30a9286237402daece05b52bb379dc9b4c145a09.jpeg) which to use

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/33 "2020-02-01T16:29:07Z")

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Cashier must have thought you had plans for one wild night lol

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/34 "2020-02-01T21:02:30Z")

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Couple pics

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**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/35 "2020-02-01T22:44:08Z")

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![20200201_154549](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/d/9/dd9d66c1e1bd3faeb1a86f973be40c42900f9409.jpeg) budder, hows it look?

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**Author:** ![TokerGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tokerguy/32/279381_2.png) [@TokerGuy](https://ilgmforum.com/u/TokerGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/36 "2020-02-01T23:56:16Z")

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Need my address now or dm? LOL. 🕶🕶

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 5:28am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/37 "2020-02-02T05:28:49Z")

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@Tinman  
[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ3ByS4J6ke4YEgHL8TFrKw](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ3ByS4J6ke4YEgHL8TFrKw)

You will enjoy this lady, entering, very informative, and most of her recipes are spot on. I have developed some of my own but I started here.  
Enjoy👍, it’s worth a look

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**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/39 "2020-02-04T16:42:15Z")

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![20200204_103312](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/3/e/1/3e1721f329e2ab4a441fb1b4c13e1e67931f027a.jpeg) back at it , northern lights decarbing now, going to try and melt some chocolate then mold, made brownies with the budder , trying coconut oil this time for the chocolate

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**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/40 "2020-02-04T21:30:46Z")

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![20200204_142052](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/8/a/48afa39761871d645f1f6271dd698eb26e326e9e.jpeg) ![20200204_152707](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/2/c/a/2ca56f1750fa31f5dff946c330fd50677fe3cd0e.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/41 "2020-02-05T00:10:57Z")

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![20200204_171538](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/7/7/b/77b454cbeede4a24833054ef69aeb10423cb974c.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/42 "2020-02-05T00:44:57Z")

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To the moon!!! 🕶

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/43 "2020-02-05T01:36:23Z")

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What recipe did you follow to make the butter?

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**Author:** ![Tinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tinman/32/321818_2.png) [@Tinman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Tinman)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-time-canna-butter/39598/44 "2020-02-05T07:46:04Z")

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Mostly blackthumbbettys

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