# First Grow Black Jack, White Buffalo, Super Sour Diesel

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398>\
**Category:** Grow Journals\
**Created:** [October 14, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398 "2018-10-14T06:22:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/1 "2018-10-14T06:22:53Z")

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Hi everyone this is my first grow. Ive done way too many hours of youtube and the time is now.  
My setup is a 2x4x5 with an off brand 1,000 watt LED. I will be using 3 gallon fabric pots with just a local compost and gardening soil mix. I am using the foxfarm trio and wholly mackerel as far as nutrients go. I actually started on 10-7-18 with 3 clones White buffalo, Black Jack and Super Sour Diesel. I have my light 18’’ and everything seems to be going well. I already fed once with the mackerel and one with the foxfarm and im worried i got a little ahead of my self with the nutrients.

 ![IMG_7758](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/b/6/b6c75b7ac7f62b3dcedc5814b583a2eed6131890.jpeg)  
this was on 10-7-18 the transplant day

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these pics are today. about an inch of growth in a week

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/2 "2018-10-14T06:27:57Z")

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Also what do yall think about fimming this Black Jack? Im a little worried the clones not being ready for this yet even though its at node 5.

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**Author:** ![mountainman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mountainman1/32/187285_2.png) [@mountainman1](https://ilgmforum.com/u/mountainman1)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/3 "2018-10-14T08:11:33Z")

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clones can handle more nutes than seeds so just keep an eye out for burnt tips on the leaves and this will tell you if you are using too many nutes. Your compost will also have plenty of available nutrients as well so maybe feed at half strength for a while and watch the plants. They will show you when they need more. Remember the clone is as old as the mother it was taken from so you can tip/fim/train any time you like.

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/4 "2018-10-14T10:19:54Z")

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Thanks mountainman1 for the feedback. Both feeds were at 25% of recommended mix. I will definitely keep an eye on the tips. Do you have any ideas on pruning for low headroom? I was wanting to fimm but a little worried about messing them up.  
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**Author:** ![mountainman1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mountainman1/32/187285_2.png) [@mountainman1](https://ilgmforum.com/u/mountainman1)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/5 "2018-10-14T10:45:10Z")

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I like to bend and use low stress training rather than topping or fimming. . Some gentle bending of the mainstem to an almost horizontal position over a period of time will allow lower branches to grow rapidly becoming main colas in their own right without tipping or fimming . But that is just my preference. Im sure some of the other experienced growers on this great site could help more in regards to fimming. Good luck with your grow

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/6 "2018-10-15T09:49:51Z")

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I tied them down tonight as mentioned by mountainman1. Does this look about right?

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**Author:** ![Es](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Es](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Es)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/7 "2018-10-15T23:13:15Z")

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Hi Lacountry I’m a YouTube also but your doing it I was wondering I thought the plant stay straight up even and you grap one stem for each side gently holding the stems on the side take a wire make like a hook and hook thelower leaf stem wile pushing the wire into the soil on both sides but you plant stays stright towards the lite litting her stretch straight up as she strengthen up let me know if I wrong looks like some is going to have a good year 2019

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/8 "2018-10-15T23:21:36Z")

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Hi Es I thought about doing that but I seen a video by greengrowspaces that shows you can pull them to one side and allow the branches to grow up then you supercrop them to the opposite side giving a wider shorter plant. Just trial and error here and trying to take in all advice everyone gives. Maybe I am doing it all wrong but I hope not lol. Thanks for the reply

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**Author:** ![Es](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Es](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Es)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/9 "2018-10-15T23:39:02Z")

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Wow never heard that but this is a for ever learning experiences I went to a hydroponic store andheard a guy brought some plants to his grow house from some where else and now he has to bomb nats and they make a big bomb safe to use on your plants it can be used before fruiting just saying lot to learn and enjoy the ride

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 5:09am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/10 "2018-10-16T05:09:29Z")

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Anyone think I should top these gals to promote side growth?

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/11 "2018-10-17T11:46:46Z")

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Does anyone know what’s going on with the discoloration?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/5/2/52a2c1d7a3be90a2b39cbf2275daa6b0ac0569b4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/12 "2018-10-20T10:15:56Z")

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After reading so much negativity on the amazon LED light I did some reading and found out my light only draws 115w and yet it was advertised as a 1000w so I just installed a 400w mh/hps light tonight. Any pointers would be appreciated

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**Author:** ![blackthumbbetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackthumbbetty/32/528626_2.png) [@blackthumbbetty](https://ilgmforum.com/u/blackthumbbetty)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/13 "2018-10-20T15:17:57Z")

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My brain read your journal’s title as: Jack Black, Betty White, and Vin Diesel…and I thought, huh, that’s gonna be an interesting movie. 😀😀😀

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 8:59am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/14 "2018-10-21T08:59:28Z")

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These girls are loving the new light.

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/15 "2018-10-21T09:01:21Z")

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I like that. Would be a good movie

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/16 "2018-10-23T00:47:00Z")

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I’m a little concerned with the run off ppm and ph

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/17 "2018-10-23T00:48:06Z")

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Anyone have any ideas?

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**Author:** ![PurpNGold74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/purpngold74/32/533767_2.png) [@PurpNGold74](https://ilgmforum.com/u/PurpNGold74)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/18 "2018-10-23T11:16:49Z")

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Those ppms are a bit high for early veg. Those are mid flowering rates. You need to get that pH up around 6.5 so she can eat some of those nutes she has available. Go in at 6.8 next time

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**Author:** ![Lacountry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/lacountry/32/156211_2.png) [@Lacountry](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Lacountry)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/19 "2018-10-27T02:05:16Z")

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Update the plants are having some issues. Ph and heat I’m guessing but we will see what happens.

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**Author:** ![blackthumbbetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/blackthumbbetty/32/528626_2.png) [@blackthumbbetty](https://ilgmforum.com/u/blackthumbbetty)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/first-grow-black-jack-white-buffalo-super-sour-diesel/24398/20 "2018-10-27T03:54:43Z")

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Do you know the brand of that soil so we can google it to figure out what it has in it to keep your pH so high?

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