Do u count pre flower as part of the flowering stage

Hi guys im just curious who counts pre flower as being part of flowering stage .cause i count the pre flowering stage as part of the main flowering stage let me know ur thoughts on this

I start the flower day count when I first see pistils
Like this

Four days earlier. I knew it would be soon


Ok so im not the only one then im glad here are some pics i took today
What do u think
Thats on the bud

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I count pre-flower when they start stretching. But more importantly, I think.
When do you flush for harvest?

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