They are autos they do flower when they decide. You can influence them.
Maybe the lack of light is why they stayed wet as well… Thanks
They don’t eat unless there is light.
And in the end turning the lights back can help them finish faster. Because they think the end of the season is here and try to finish there flowering.
I got another long road trip tomorrow so I’m calling it a night if you have anymore questions feel free to tag me. Just put @ in front of whoever’s name you want to speak to. And they will know I’m @Dman1969
And I’ll tag you in my journal
That’s part of coco, the pots don’t dry out, they stay heavy. I takes much less water to get runoff in coco. I’m in 3 gallon pots and it only takes a half gallon to get plenty of runoff, watering every day. It feels wrong at first, I know, but once you water every day at the right EC, they will amaze you at how fast they grow. Mine are just over 30 days from sprout and they are 2 ft tall, flipping them tomorrow.
Thank you my man, I grew in soil for years and had to break an overwatering habit that would stunt my autos so it’s kind of instilled in me now not to lol. I have a PPM meter and the nutes at 3/4 strength are under 700 going in and a 987 was as high I’ve seen with the runoff… I do a Recharge feeding by itself once a week. The Advanced line does a great job of automatically Ph’ing to 5.8 so I don’t have to worry there.
Wow that’s impressive. Yeah, I’m using almost 2 gallons to get runoff so this totally makes sense now. Do I need to invest in an EC meter? I think mine only tests for PPM
You can use ppm, I just got used to EC. 500 ppm equals 1.0 EC……
Gotcha, well it seems I’ve been pretty close to that anyway. I’ll stop asking questions and read the journal lol.
Your good, don’t know if you don’t ask!
A closed mouth don’t get fed. If you got questions we will find the answers. Keep on keepin on.
You can water/feed coco-coir like soil but you will get soil results.
Think of coco-coir as hydroponics, as it is just a form of hydroponics.
You will see the best results with dairy feedings with a nice little bit of runoff.
You can get even better results if fed multiple times a day…
Search YouTube for “high frequency fertigation in coco-coir” and it will all make sense…
I’m of the mindset that if autos are not flowering fast then you’re doing good.
If they flower fast then potentially something is not right.
You can give them 48hrs dark but it want matter if you go back to a regular light schedule.
If you want to try snd induce flower then go to 12/12 and stay at 12/12.
Definitely crank that light full blast and feed at least once a day making sure you get a decent bit of runoff each time and you’ll be happy with the results.
Im betting with 3-4 days of this, you will see an explosion of growth
That’s the last journal I posted to regularly, and heres what i have going now in coco-coir.
Some plants don’t grow as big as others and most autoflowering plants don’t get as big as photoperiod plants. This is due to the Cannabis ruderalis genes in autoflowering plants. Lack of nutrients or light can also cause slow growth.
Autoflowering plants don’t need to be flipped (giving them 12 hours of dark each night). They will flower under 24 hours of light per day.
Photoperiod plants do need a reduction in lighting time to start flowering. These plants will stay in a vegetative state until they are sexually mature and the nights get longer. Most people change their lighting time to 12 hours of dark and 12 hours of light. After 2 weeks of this the plants start to flower. They leave the lights on a 12/12 cycle until the plants have finished flowering and are harvested. You don’t need to give them 48 hours of darkness to get them to flower, just change the light to 12/12.
A few days later and I wanted to report a couple of things. . I’m guessing with letting the pots dry some I got some build up that was causing some problems… I tested my nutrients at almost 3/4 strength and was a 660 ppm. The runoff was in the 900 ppm range and the runoff PH was around 5.3
After a few days of daily waterings of nutrients at 550 ppm’s (I scaled back because it looks like I had nute burn on the tips) the runoff has been 580 ppm, 620 ppm range, the PH runoff appears to be the same range as it was going in now. I know that my ppm / EC is supposed to be higher when feeding but I was getting some tip burn and the leaves are a good color, even a little dark imo. I also switched from 20/4 to 18/6 lighting, turned the lights up to 75%
and it appears that we have some pistols. Any advice from here would be greatly appreciated.
Just keep doing what you’re doing
Looking good
Don’t get hung up on ppm numbers needing to be at a certain number, I usually get through veg and into flower before I ever feed much over 600ppm so they should love the new frequent feedings.
Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to answer. So, in your opinion you don’t believe that autos can be tricked by a 12/12 light schedule? This is all new to me and I was also under the impression that autoplants were on an internal timer and light was a non factor, but after seeing many claims of growers whose plants were stuck in veg because of stress and finally achieved flower from a 12/12 cycle I’m still confused. Do you think the flowering success was due to them fixing the stress issue? I also fully believe some of them mistakenly were given a photo period seed but in my case, I know that these are in fact autos and my issue is grower error.
Thank you, will do.
A auto flower can’t be tricked.
But sometimes genetics don’t do what we expect them to do.
That is saying not all seeds labeled as autoflowers actually have an active auto flowing gene.
It’s rare but not uncommon for autoflowers seeds to never flowing untill switched to 12/12.
Then once flipped to 12/12 they immediately start their streach and transition into flower.
So technically you can say autos can’t be tricked as that’s true, but the important caveat to not overlook, is sonetimes autos just don’t auto makeing them technically photoperiods if that makes sense.
That why a short period of 12hrs or more of darkness then back to less then 12hrs of darkness wouldn’t have any effect.
If it’s truly an auto then it don’t care about the hrs of darkness.
If it’s not an auto the extra darkness would induce flower but once back to less then 12hrs darkness, it would revert back to veg.
Absolutely unrelated to stress issues and more a genetic thing from my experience and understanding…
Stress can possible cause early flowering if anything but not late flowering in autoflowers from what I’ve seen.
Gotcha. That does makes sense, and I also figured stress or to little feedings would cause an early flower, It’s just strange because I have never had this issue, and with this being 3 different seeds for 3 different breeders, 2 of which I’ve grown from the same pack, (all in soil) and none have flowered within a 7 week period is bizarre… I am now getting some pistols. At first, I thought that coco kept them from flowering on time but from what people have been saying not the case.
Thank you for your thoughts and wisdom.