# Coco and seedlings

**URL:** <https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452>\
**Category:** Grow Cycle\
**Created:** [February 7, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452 "2021-02-07T13:00:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChaseV89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChaseV89](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChaseV89)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/1 "2021-02-07T13:00:15Z")

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First time growing In coco. Seedling came out of coco 7 days ago. One plant is going on it’s 3rd node, three are still an inch tall. All plants leaves are lighter than normal. I flushed one today. I washed coco before planting I’ve fed 1/4 strength nutrients 2 times. No cal mag. What do I do please help

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**Author:** ![PharmerBob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/pharmerbob/32/269760_2.png) [@PharmerBob](https://ilgmforum.com/u/PharmerBob)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/2 "2021-02-07T13:17:18Z")

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Stop watering and let them dry out a bit

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**Author:** ![KeystoneCops](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/keystonecops/32/655489_2.png) [@KeystoneCops](https://ilgmforum.com/u/KeystoneCops)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/3 "2021-02-07T13:21:10Z")

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You should always be watering with CalMag. Anyway, what ratio of perlite did you use?

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**Author:** ![Myfriendis410](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/myfriendis410/32/556067_2.png) [@Myfriendis410](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Myfriendis410)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/4 "2021-02-07T15:03:47Z")

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I also found a big dip in PH with some coco which tends to stall seedlings.

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**Author:** ![CMichGrower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/cmichgrower/32/511471_2.png) [@CMichGrower](https://ilgmforum.com/u/CMichGrower)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/5 "2021-02-07T17:06:52Z")

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Did you buffer the coco with cal-mag before starting? Was it pre buffered? Cal-mag is necessary when growing in coco and needs to be used every watering/feeding. You need to use the feeding chart which comes with your nutrients. Start with cal mag, add the nutrients as suggested, then adjust pH. Check your ppm and if they are higher then suggested by feed schedule dilute your feeding with cal-mag water until you reach your desired ppm. Feed frequently and just enough to get some runoff. The frequency can be as often as several times a day.

It is really hard to overwater with coco so don’t stop watering, the plant isn’t harmed.

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Marsh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/randy_marsh/32/313936_2.png) [@Randy\_Marsh](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Randy_Marsh)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/6 "2021-02-07T17:29:44Z")

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Picture , and it does sound like plant is hungry , as far my knowledge goes coco have no macro or micro nutrients, so make sure you are feeding them properly for the medium you are using , and ph should be important to verify since might be an uptake problem

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**Author:** ![KeystoneCops](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/keystonecops/32/655489_2.png) [@KeystoneCops](https://ilgmforum.com/u/KeystoneCops)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/7 "2021-02-07T18:31:19Z")

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That surprises me. How were you gauging that?

I start out with 3-4 watering events per day, which might be why I haven’t encountered this. Also, we are likely buying different coco, and perhaps there’s a significant difference there.

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**Author:** ![Watt-Sun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/watt-sun/32/193796_2.png) [@Watt-Sun](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Watt-Sun)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/8 "2021-02-07T20:34:37Z")

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**Author:** ![Myfriendis410](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/myfriendis410/32/556067_2.png) [@Myfriendis410](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Myfriendis410)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/9 "2021-02-07T21:01:01Z")

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> [@KeystoneCops](#):
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> How were you gauging that

Took a sample and did a slurry test. IIRC it came out in the mid 4’s. Roots Organics coco was what I had. Maybe some organic material decayed while mixed with the coco; who knows?

Probably not a bad idea for all of us to test our base media for PH. Hmmmm…

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**Author:** ![KeystoneCops](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/keystonecops/32/655489_2.png) [@KeystoneCops](https://ilgmforum.com/u/KeystoneCops)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/10 "2021-02-07T21:06:44Z")

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Were you using any biological additives? Are you certain it wasn’t reservoir pH change?

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**Author:** ![Myfriendis410](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/myfriendis410/32/556067_2.png) [@Myfriendis410](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Myfriendis410)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/11 "2021-02-07T21:27:01Z")

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Nah; fresh coco out of the bag into a Solo cup for the seedling.

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**Author:** ![ChaseV89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChaseV89](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChaseV89)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 3:49am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/12 "2021-02-15T03:49:20Z")

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I mixed in worm castings and what I feel was alot of perlite but the coco feels like maybe I should have put more here is some pics of progress. Idk why the leaves are broiling down today I fed lastnight. But I looks like over watering. I still haven’t watered to runoff yet. Why are the leafs looking all droopy and frail?! I use cal-mag every water and feeding with advanced nutrients coco connoisseur part A and Pant B. Ph 5.9-6.1[IMG\_20210214\_211653910\_HDR|375x500](https://ilgmforum.com/uploads/short-url/rNnyeq2xmhWmErHDbRp0gdfZq7g.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![T80gray](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/t80gray/32/151472_2.png) [@T80gray](https://ilgmforum.com/u/T80gray)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/13 "2021-03-16T20:24:18Z")

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The pots maybe a lil too big for them and the excess moisture in them is too much, bigger pots for lil seedlings tend to have this issue, let them dry out and try watering around the edges of the medium so as to let the roots search for the water

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**Author:** ![ChaseV89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChaseV89](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChaseV89)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/14 "2021-03-16T22:03:37Z")

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**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/15 "2021-03-17T12:34:26Z")

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I grow in Coco and use grow bags. it is very hard to overwater in Coco. I also use Jacks 3-2-1 formula and feed daily. I transplant mine from little peat cups to the 5Gal bags while they are very young. After a few days for the roots to pop through the sides and bottom of the peat pot its Katy bar the door. I have to raise the lights every couple of days they grow so fast

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**Author:** ![ChaseV89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChaseV89](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChaseV89)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 7:06am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/16 "2021-03-18T07:06:54Z")

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@jetlag @Randy_Marsh @T80gray @Watt-Sun I was using coco connoisseur perfect ph. But I fallowed the feeding chart to the T and I burned my plants. Then I flushed them and I’m using nuke heads now it’s a powder 2 part.

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**Author:** ![ChaseV89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@ChaseV89](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChaseV89)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/17 "2021-03-18T07:15:22Z")

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@jetlag dDonu use straight coco or a mix? If so what would that be

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**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/18 "2021-03-18T10:16:10Z")

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I use a Coco/perlite mix, 70/30 called Mother Earth Pro Mixed Coco Coir Plus Perlite Potting Soil Compaction Resisted Cocoa Growing Medium High Aeration and Drainage Coco Coir Blend Soil, [Bundled with Garden Gloves], 50 Liters. it is ready to go and all I do before planting is buffer it with Cal-Mag. I run a couple of gallons of water through it with a couple of days before transplanting. Once transplanted I seldom ever have to use Cal-Mag again, as the Jacks formula has Calcium Magnesium in it. The 50L bag at Amazon is $37

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**Author:** ![jetlag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aca169/32.png) [@jetlag](https://ilgmforum.com/u/jetlag)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 10:17am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/19 "2021-03-18T10:17:11Z")

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**Author:** ![Watt-Sun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/watt-sun/32/193796_2.png) [@Watt-Sun](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Watt-Sun)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/coco-and-seedlings/62452/20 "2021-03-18T11:09:27Z")

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How often are you feeding them?

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