Fleur de Mal Seeds:
I just moved some around & forget what order they’re in now, (they are labeled), but there’s one each of Cindy88, Ortega, Sweet Tooth, African Queen, Indiana Bubblegum(f3), & Janice.
Thermpro, past week:
Heading into Week 5 & starting to check for sex, nothing yet. Hoping to get at least one female to send to the Main Cab, & I’ll keep any other females in here for the next run.
Setup is basically the same as before, although I forgot to set my net-pots into the pots before planting, no biggie. I’ll transplant any females into them once any show.
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Pic with strain names:
Sweet Tooth runoff started to smell foul, so I did a root-prune & into the net-pot, & flushed with fresh nutes with a little extra SM-90 & H2O2. It had roots growing from the bottom up the sides, & the rest of them are probably similar. The others runoff still smells good so I’ll leave them until they show (unless the runoff starts to smell before they show), then fully prune & netpot any other fems. Having the net pots in there in the first place avoids a lot of this because I can lift it out & root-prune whatever is coming out of the net pots, without tearing up anything. But putting them in there is a newer thing for me, so I forgot already to put them in there. Sweet tooth looks OK so far, I figured it would look clamped down & complaining by now. I did more disturbing to the root ball than I wanted to.
Thermpro, 1 hour today:
First run in here with my new temp gun. I’ve been starting to use it for a few days, now that the leaves are big enough to shoot easily. With the emissivity set to .98, the leaf temps seem to climb to around half a degree under air temps until the exhaust kicks on, then they fall very quickly to around 75 or 76 as the exhaust runs, then they climb pretty quickly back up after the exhaust stops. I took a few individual measurements & let the box stabilize between them. I’m watch sweet tooth to see if it starts to act weird with higher leaf temps due to chopping the roots off, but so far it measured like the others & still looks ok in general.
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There are definitely female preflowers on the Princess88 & Janice, & I think I see two hairs starting to emerge from the Bubblegum preflowers. I’d like to flower the B.G. next due to supposedly being able to handle humidity a little better.
The three on the left (the tallest & shortest plants in the box) are probably male. One has the ‘ball & claw’, & the other two need a little more time for me to tell for sure.
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Males have been disposed of, only girls left:
Male roots: The lava has been reclaimed.
Got a little hotter & drier than usual for a couple hours in the cab after I took out the three males (less moisture being released overall) & also moved the exhaust fan sensor around slightly, until I got back in there to make a couple more adjustments at the end of the graph:
Tomorrow I plan to transplant the B.G. into a net-pot. I’ll try to comb out & prune any roots longer than the net-pot before I stick it in there, but I don’t want to hack up the root-ball too much. I’m hoping to send it over to the Main Cab by tomorrow night, unless there are any issues. I haven’t decided how I want to top &/or train it yet.
I plan to top the other two, leaving me with maybe eight cuttings that I’ll try to root in my cloner. I may not even keep any that root, but I have a couple things that I want to try with the cloner anyway, so may as well run it.
After I top the other two, I’ll let them recover for a couple days, then I’ll do a major root-prune on them & put them into net-pots & then back into the current pots to keep them going until I need them.
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Setting up the cloner:
Trying some ‘stem shrouds’ on the six in the middle. I’ve seen someone mention this here not too long ago, but also I remember hearing about it on forums years ago & also trying it then, & it seemed to help. Back then I was using 1/2" fuel tubing cut about 2" long, & the roots seemed to like to grow more where the tube was covering the stem vs. them being more exposed. I made these by cutting out the centers of & attaching three foam cloning discs or whatever they are called together. I also left four singles at the ends, to see if they work better. I usually suck at cloning anyway, so they might all just die anyway. Not enough practice since cloning is the thing I have needed to do the least of, overall.
Chop chop, clones installed.
Added a couple points to the RH target, & still tinkering with the temp sensor to see if I can shave off a degree & get it to run between maybe 79.5 & 80.5 without causing the exhaust fan to run away.
The two remaining plants will get major root prunes & into net-pots before going back into the standard pots, probably tomorrow. Nutes have been cut in half for them now.
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Princess 88 Rootball:
Janice looked about the same.
Princess after root-pruning:
Janice: I took more off of this one overall.
Planted into net-pots in standard pots:
Janice is on the left this time.
I misted the clones a few times yesterday as they would wilt, & again once this morning - but only a couple looked like they needed it. I’ll hit the one on the front right later tonight; since it’s the only one still wilting, when I go back in to add water to Janice & to swap out the cloner water. Those end spots don’t get as many bubbles as the center spots. I’ll probably be able to stop misting tonight.
Thermpro:
Cab got down to 78f after final exhaust fan adjustments last night. I turned my a/c down a degree also. 78f is fine, but the exhaust fan was running longer than I wanted (& I don’t want to turn the a/c down any cooler). A couple more adjustments to the fan target near the end of today & the temps should now run between 79.5 - 80f, without the exhaust fan running for too long.
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Quick pic of root progress: Both pots are about the same.
First clone to show roots, & they are mostly up in the shroud & not below.
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Planted the clone with roots, it’s another Janice.
I made a ‘rockwool slurry’ & poured that into the 1" plastic form for the original cube, while holding the clone in the center, re-forming a rockwool cube around the roots without damaging them. Then I popped it out of the plastic form & planted it into a net pot with lava, & gave it some half-strength nutes. The two original plants are still alive. The Princess88 is on the left, & Janice on the right. Janice has the smaller root ball & is slightly slower to recover & maybe getting too much PPM, but she should keep growing. Worst-case, maybe her clone will survive.
The rest of them have not shown any roots yet, & I’ll give them another week.
Thermpro, past week:
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Pruned the P88 back to 8 single tops & will try to maintain that shape:
Also gave it a root-prune below the net-pot, leaving 1/8" to 1/4" hanging down into the air gap between the net pot & outer pot.
The Janice clone is still hanging around & on reduced nutes, & original Janice is still slow but the new growth is looking better thanks to reduced nutes. I gave her a little more PPM today. The P88 is also now on slightly reduced nutes after the prune. Once I get the eight small tops going, I’ll try to keep them small & growing slowly.
Also, today I saw one single tiny root popping out of one of the clones in the aero cloner.
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I shut down the cloner a couple days ago, no further root development, & slime was starting to build up on the ends of the cuttings. I may have needed to roll the RH down sooner. Like I said before, I generally suck at cloning. I got one to play with, so I consider it a success. Not sure what to make of the extended foam shroud collars, but I’ll keep trying them & the single collars to see if one starts doing better. On the one that rooted, the roots did mostly appear around where the collar was, & not much below it. I guess I can say that at the very least, they can still root, even if I try the extended collars.
The Janice cutting that did root is just starting to find a gear, I think. It’s been hanging around, getting yellow. Roots are starting to pop out of the sides of the net-pot since a couple days ago, none out of the bottom yet. I gave it a diluted foliar spray yesterday before the flood-feeding in the solo cups, & started upping its nutes. Hopefully it’ll start taking in some nutes soon. I do the solo cup flood-feedings around every 12 hours for now. Eventually I should be able to stretch that out to once a day or longer once I’m able to cut them back to small single tops.
The original Janice has rebounded & it got it’s first root pruning below the net-pot yesterday, & the P88 got its second. I’ve been pruning both up top towards eight single tops. Both of them are eating well. They would be ideal to go into the main cab now, probably.
Been rolling down the RH over the past week:
Forgot to add, I was able to determine the sporadic problem with my fan power cable, & ‘fix’ it. The male USB plug at the end of the cable wasn’t always making a good connection when plugged into the wall wart. I was able to squeeze the end of the male USB plug to slightly bend down the metal & narrow the opening, & now it makes a solid electrical connection when plugged into the wall wart. I like those little fans for what I use them for.
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Quick update:
Janice clone is starting to grow & eat, the other two plants got a root-prune below the net-pots, & topped yesterday.
P88 (left) is back down to 8 tops, & the Janice (right) is working on 16 & I’ll cut those back down to 8 once they grow in. Both of them got fresh lava on top. Checking in on them/ watering is down to once a day now, & they’re all getting around the same PPM, but the clone isn’t eating as much yet.
Thermpro, past week:
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Topped & root-pruned the Janice clone, reduced her nutes, will she survive?
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Been clipping tops, leaves, & roots. The plants are making lots of roots & have been growing steadily:
They are all on the same ppm for now. I might have pop the bigger ones out of the net-pots do full rootball-prunes soon, & LST their branches to keep the them from the most intense light.
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Did some topping, partial leaf trimming, & root-pruning below the net pots on everybody yesterday & today.
P88 (left) went today & had some odor in the water, but could just be from needing the root prune, & it might go away. If not, it will be time for a full root-prune out of the net pot.
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Quick update after some top pruning:
I was able to knock out the odor from P88 (left) by adding a little extra 'Tussin90 to her daily solo cup flood feed, & by removing the outer pot & setting the net pot right into the solo cup, & then only filling to about 1/4" below the bottom of the net pot. I would do that once & then dump it out, then do it again & this time I would shake the solution in the bottom for about 10 seconds with the whole thing tilted enough to get some good agitation going, & I would rotate the cup 90deg until I had done the whole thing. This rinsed out the roots below the net cup (had just been pruned short), & I got a lot of small pieces floating around in the rinse water. After a couple days of this, the odor went away. Sometimes this doesn’t work & I have to pop it out of the net pot & do a full root prune, which I’m trying to delay for as long as possible. Sometimes there’s no odor, but drainage can get bad enough from too many roots to where I have to do it anyway.
Thermpro, past week:
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Gave everyone a root-prune outside of the net-pots yesterday, & swapped in some fresh lava on top today.
Also did some LST training on the Janice clone.
P88 might be due for a full root prune soon, as drainage through her is starting to become difficult. No foul odors from any of them though.
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Lots of pruning on top:
Thermpro, past week: Warm & very humid ambient outside air for the past three days. RH spikes earlier in the week from my humidifier running harder then. Also the box was running a little cooler then, so that would move it up a little. But Mon thru the first half of Thurs the outside ambient air was much less humid, believe it or not.
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More root, top, & leaf pruning over the past couple days:
Thermpro, past week:
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More of the usual leaf & root pruning…
…although I’m starting to get sulfur odors in the standing water & runoff of the two larger plants. Hoping to be able to get away with sending the P88 (on the left) straight into the main cab asap without doing a full rootball prune, & then I’ll probably have to do a full rootball prune on the larger Janice (on the right) for it to stay happy where it is, & the Janice clone isn’t having odor issues yet.
Thermpro, past week:
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Janice seed on the left, Janice clone on the right:
Finally did a full rootball prune on seed Janice, & also did some LST training to shorten her down. Hopefully she lives after all of that. Clone Janice got a root prune outside of the netpot & some topside pruning. She doesn’t seem to need a full rootball prune yet. Both got fresh lava on top, & the humidifier got a clean-out.
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