Any ideas if this is just bad genetics or not? Shes a Auto Jack Herrer, been like this since day 1. Tried Neem and Hyrdogen Peroxide, saw some fungus gnats… Nothing seems to make her happy. Never gave any nutes, just fresh Happy Frogs soil and water. Stumped…
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I am so sorry you are having an issue with your plant. I have a few questions for you:
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Have you tested the ph of your water? Living soil like happy frog should be ok if it’s not too far off…
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Did you spray Neem; or use a meal or drench? If you sprayed, did you do it with the lights on? Neem is notorious for burning plants if it is basking in the light afterwards.
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How long between Neem and H2O2? I think that if they were done back to back it could be a simple case of too much to quickly.
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How close is your light? What you running? It seems to be a bit of heat or light stress too.? Have you taken temps in your grow space? Its hard to tell there if it was all ready burned.
I would only run water until it recovers. I would not treat again unless it is covered in knats. If it’s just a few let it ride till it recovers. I would humbly suggest using BT or Neem meal as a top dress as alternate treatments for knats. Especially if you sprayed Neem oil. I have seen the oil burn like that before on young plants. Don’t be discouraged if you loose it.
Also, especially with an auto, they can be easily burned by hot soil. Many will plant the auto into a hand dug well refilled with No ferts seed start soil; surrounded by the fertilized mix. That way the plant grows down to the nutrients when it’s ready. Thru the start baby mix. Or alternately start it in a smaller seed mix only pot then place the seedling pot and all (jiffy pot or quick transplant) into the hotter mix. I have even cut the bottom off a plastic starter pot to not disturb the roots. Autos seem a bit touchy about messing with the roots.
Honestly, if you have more seeds you may pop a couple. This type of disruption can cause havoc on autos because the timer is already going. I would guess you are looking at 2-3 weeks of TLC to get that back on track. That could really effect the final yield. A photo you could nurse it back to health until you are ready. But the auto all ready has the meter running and the recovery is lost growth time.
I would pinch the 2 biggest crispy sun leaves off. That will promote new growth. But honestly I would not do much and see if it recovers. It may surprise you. Pop a couple more seeds if you are depending on this for herb. If it’s just for fun, see what happens.
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She needs feeding thats why she looks like that ,u cant expect her to grow with out feeding it happy frog doesnt have that much nutrients in it
True and I totally agree. But I guess I am just seeing the Neem as burning the plant. Or ph lock…need more info. If it’s burn or ph locked I would fix that before I turned up the food. There’s more than hunger going on there in my humble opinion.
Like feed once those new sprouts show up.
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This looks like a severe case of nitrogen toxicity. Do you know your runoff PPM? Have you been foliar feeding?
Let’s do a support ticket. The issue is perplexing given you say that there has been no feeding of the plant.
A support ticket will help us help you. Can you please fill out a support ticket? Please include what type of water you are using (RO, distilled, tap.)
COPY/PASTE the below list into your forum post.
Answer these simple questions the best you can.
If you do not know, or do not use something; Just say so; Or post
NA (non-applicable)
• What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed
• Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF
Soil brand and type
• Vessels: Pots, Grow beds, Buckets, Troths
• PH of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)
• PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable
• Indoor or Outdoor
• Light system
• Temps; Day, Night
• Humidity; Day, Night
• Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size
• AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,
• Co2; Yes, No
If growing Hydro some additional questions:
-DWC? RDWC? Autopots? Ebb and Flow? Other?
-Distance of liquid below net pot (DWC)
-Temperature of reservoir
-TDS of nutrient solution
-Amount of air to solution
Always try to upload a clear picture of any issues you may have to allow the community to assist you. Pictures taken under natural or white lighting are by far the best.
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@noddykitty1 i agree with you aswell i would start on a low strength feeding and make sure ph and everything else is right
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Good comments above. I will just add that many times when you start a seed the baby will look wonky.
Sometimes the first true leaves will look deformed, wrong color or burned. Sometimes its just a genetic thing and they almost always recover and grow just fine.
Point is not to act too quickly to try and “FIX” something on a new sprout, especially if its in a cannabis friendly soil like Happy Frog. The support ticket midwestguy posted will help us a lot to get you sorted.
• What strain, Seed bank, or bag seed
OG Kush Auto, ILGM
• Method: Soil w/salt, Organic soil, Hydroponics, Aquaponics, KNF
Soil brand and type
Happy Frogs Soil
• Vessels: Pots, Grow beds, Buckets, Troths
Pots
• PH of Water, Solution, runoff (if Applicable)
6.3
• PPM/TDS or EC of nutrient solution if applicable
725
• Indoor or Outdoor
Indoor
• Light system
Vivosun VS1000
• Temps; Day, Night
80°F/74°F
• Humidity; Day, Night
~50%
• Ventilation system; Yes, No, Size
2 Fans 1 Osc 1 straight line
• AC, Humidifier, De-humidifier,
No
• Co2; Yes, No
Yes, Organic Co2 bag
If growing Hydro some additional questions:
-DWC? RDWC? Autopots? Ebb and Flow? Other?
-Distance of liquid below net pot (DWC)
-Temperature of reservoir
-TDS of nutrient solution
-Amount of air to solution
This is in week 6 and I didnt respond until week 4. Figured maybe it was a runt and needed some extra time, but now 6 weeks in I am thinking trash it and try again.
I would have thought it was a nute issue but the very first set of leaves looked like this and its Happy Frogs so you know there is plenty of nutes in it…
Tried the Neem first. watered twice plain water, then tried the H2O2… (Shrugs)
Yah happy frog doesnt have as much nutrients like everyone thinks every batch of happy frog or any premix soil will always be different to the others in the same batch it always good to mix in some worm castings and bat guano in to ur soil .
Ive grown many plants with Happy Frogs and never seen anything like this. This is the 3rd plant in that pot alone that Ive grown…
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You know what it is possible that the one seed is lacking in the genetic material or it could even be possible that the seed wasnt mature enough theres so many things that it could be
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I agree with @noddykitty1 . It may have nitrogen issues too, but give me a chance as I’m working but I got a Northern lights that’s been treated to yonder and back for spider mites and it looks just like yours. Chemical burn my friend, ditch the Neem as it leaves a bad aftertaste on your buds.
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Or I should have said, Neem leaves a bad aftertaste “in” your buds.
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@2GreenThumbs
I could not agree more with that.
@CurrDogg420 has convinced me that If you want to use azadarachtin to go with the Neem meal as a compromise. I am definitely not a fan of spraying the presssd oil.
The one time i actually sprayed neem oil on my plants was in the very beginning, luckily it was a photo and not an autoflower because it made it look just like this.
I also just about killed several of the wifes giant house plants with it also. Basically everything i sprayed it on wilted and turned colors with alot actually dieing off…
I mean, everything i read said it was basically a cure all (looking back that should have been a sign 
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But idk, it could be i just don’t know how to use it properly. So I used the rest of what i had as a perimeter spray and I want be buying anymore…
Mosquito bits work good on the gnats long term, but I use “flying insect spray” if not in flower and sometimes in flower if i can spray the soil without hitting the buds any.
All fans off of course, and it dosen’t take much at all, just a tiny bit sprayed on top of soil not even getting it wet its so little, but I do these little mini sprays once a day for maybe 3days and no more flys anywhere every time…
I had some terrible troubles with ph after the neem oil, (i also wet the soil pretty good, i though it was good for everything 
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My guess is ph is out causing the deficiency look, and the neem itself is the cause the wilting…
But with no more info this us just a guess my freind so dont hold me to this…
I’d start with geting a runoff ph and ppm and go from there. I would not feed it nutes till i at least did this…
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Whenever u feel it’s necessary to use a neem oil spray on ur ladies, I have a few suggestions from my experience with neem. First n foremost make sure it has an emulsifier, this allows the oil n water to combine for an even application. Then half the suggested amount to b used. Apply to the underside of the leaves then use ur fingers to message the leaves. Do this right before lights out. My recommendation would b to exhaust every means necessary before resorting to using neem. N never ever use neem n ur Bud room, Also using H2O2 is akin to doing a flush, depending on the amount used n at what percent the H2O2 used is. My 2 pennies worth says bad genetics, trash it, count it as a learning experience n move on.
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Im thinking the same, its just a bad girl, trash it… Next! Thanks everyone. I would think it was something in the norm if I hadnt used this soil for about 15 grows now and the other 2 plants I have growing are fine. I only used the Neem after weeks of not seeing a change. Then fresh water then H2O2, nothing… Sucks I only have 1 more seed of the OG Kush left. Fingers crossed!