# Are Red stems ok? How does grow look? **URL:** \ **Category:** Flowering\ **Tags:** nutes, lighting, autoflower\ **Created:** [September 18, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331 "2021-09-18T01:25:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/1 "2021-09-18T01:25:49Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/9/7/d/97d740eab81b6edcf9f53c0b6389e4769b8d579f.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/b/b/fbbfe279f7a88d139dbaf22f4bffbf207fd85e45.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/a/6/3/a6389dddbc51815b8285b3be9abb5d58d0cdf9fa.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/e/0/6/e06ac4900245077bf9943ee644179cb32b8ad35f.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/d/3/4d3e1c696f2dec799af27b3e9c801caf2278da44.jpeg) So just out of curiosity are these red stems bad? Everything seems to be doing ok for this 41 day old gorilla glue auto flower how does it look in comparison to other people? (First time grower here so I have no clue what it is supposed to look like at this stage) began flowering about 2 weeks ago, one plant is about a week ahead of the others it seems to me. Grown in a 4x4 Mars hydro with the tsw2000, 5 gallon pots, happy frog soil, and light doses of fox farms nute trio, ph water to 6.0 every time of watering ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/2 "2021-09-18T01:30:18Z")
And I did lst when younger but accidentally broke a main stalk (long story) on one so I got nervous and took all the wire ties off for now ---
**Author:** ![Low](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/low/32/1169155_2.png) [@Low](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Low)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/3 "2021-09-18T01:37:04Z")
It’s normal. Red leaf stems are generally a sign of maturity. When you break a branch use any tape you have on hand to repair it. More often then not they heal. The gorilla glue autos I ran hit flower around 5-6 weeks. One flowered for 9 weeks and the other flowered for 12. Also pH your water to 6.8… 6.0 is too low for soil. You want 6.5 for soil pH. Fox farm soils are low in pH so that’s why I suggest 6.8… track your run off. ---
**Author:** ![Dankloud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dankloud/32/678344_2.png) [@Dankloud](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dankloud)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/4 "2021-09-18T01:37:24Z")
No expert, but red stems can be a sign of stress, or genetics. Honestly, your girls look a little droopy though… How often are you watering? Droopy is often a sign of over/under watering. Red stems could be from that. @Low credit for reading the whole post… I shoulda caught the pH thing XD Do they look slightly droopy to you? ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/5 "2021-09-18T01:40:37Z")
@Dankloud Previous the soil was not drying up until 7 days after watering (during veg) but once it started growing pistols it started drying up faster and faster, now I’m putting 1 gal in each pot once every 3 days ---
**Author:** ![Newt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/newt/32/688722_2.png) [@Newt](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Newt)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/6 "2021-09-18T01:42:17Z")
Potentially an early Phosphorous deficiency: ![p-def](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/f/c/ffc3072fe003f5efea800d6ea307fa1413bb4e76.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/7 "2021-09-18T01:45:04Z")
This is everything I have done to the plant so far Aug 5 Planted seeds Gorilla glue auto flower from ILGM Started flower September 5th Week 1 (aug 5-11) Seedling Light at 24” 70-90 rh 80-90° Ph 6.0 water Week 2(aug 12-18) Veg stage Light at 18-24” 70-90 rh 80-90° Ph 6.0 water 14ml grow big in 2 gal on 16th 30 ml big bloom in 2 gal on 16th Only used 1-1.5 gallons between all 3 plants Started to have curling so raised the light to 24” and turned down to 75% Week 3 (aug 19-25) Growing phase Light at 24” 75% rh 80-85° Ph 6.0 water Watered ph water on 19th 1.5 gal Started lst on aug 22 Aug 24 fed with 60 ml big bloom 30 ml grow big in 2 gallons of water Week 4 (aug 26-Sep1) Pre-flowering Light at 24” 80 rh 80° Watered September 1 Week 5( sep 2- 8) !!!Flowering began around September 5th!!! Light all the way up high and on max 70-80 rh 80° 5ml of tigerbloom per 2gal 8ml of growbig per 2 gal 30 ml bb all on September 7 Week 6 (sep 9-15) 60%-70 rh 70-80° Light all the way up high and on max Watered ph water September 10th (1.5 gal /3) 15 ml bb 10ml grow big 10ml tiger bloom on September 14th Broke main top on 14th Week 7 (sep 16-22) 70 rh 80° Light all the way up, turned down a little on 17th Watered reg on September 17th ---
**Author:** ![Low](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/low/32/1169155_2.png) [@Low](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Low)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/8 "2021-09-18T01:45:37Z")
> [@Dankloud](#): > > @Low credit for reading the whole post… I shoulda caught the pH thing XD Do they look slightly droopy to you? Yeah. Could be a number of reasons. Recent watering, close to lights out, heat, light intensity. I wouldn’t worry about any deficiencies until they are abvious. Edit @Payton Are you not tracking the run off ppms and pH?? ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/9 "2021-09-18T01:47:02Z")
@Low thats kinda what I was thinking, the lights turned on only an hour before these photos were taken, just had watered, and the heat and humidity has been way too high for my likings but it is what it is ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Wormwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mr_wormwood/32/612861_2.png) [@Mr\_Wormwood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mr_Wormwood)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/10 "2021-09-18T01:47:40Z")
All my fan leaves turned purple and everything went fine I’ve even seen people use that as a signal that thy can remove it (only if needed obviously) ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/12 "2021-09-18T01:49:24Z")
@Low yeah that was a major set back for the plants starting off, I was roasting them with the light, I raised it all the way up to the top of the tent and turned it to 100%and they did ok but I still think I’ve been giving them too much light, just turned it down a little The tent is outside in a shed and I have 2 dehumidifiers running and can’t get the humidity below 60-70 ---
**Author:** ![Low](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/low/32/1169155_2.png) [@Low](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Low)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/13 "2021-09-18T01:50:27Z")
It’s important to utilize ppfd and dli to your advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/14 "2021-09-18T01:50:51Z")
@Low excuse my ignorance but I have no idea what those are ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Wormwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mr_wormwood/32/612861_2.png) [@Mr\_Wormwood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mr_Wormwood)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/15 "2021-09-18T01:51:35Z")
Ok, I see people say download the flu app(insert app name here) and others say they’re worthless What the what ---
**Author:** ![Low](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/low/32/1169155_2.png) [@Low](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Low)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/16 "2021-09-18T01:51:52Z")
> [@Start using DLI](https://ilgmforum.com/t/start-using-dli/64987): > > Daily Light Interval (DLI) is a quick and efficient way to calculate how much light our plants are receiving within a 24hr period, allowing for easy light adjustments. DLI will help you and the community to better understand your lighting in a more universal term, leading to clearer communication of what the true light value is. Almost all smartphones have the ability to use an app (we will get to this don’t jump the gun) in order to calculate DLI, and if that is not an option a cheap LUX meter… You can do what I do and connect ducting directly to the exhaust of the dehumidifier. The Photone app is pretty accurate. So idk what app your referring to @Mr_Wormwood ---
**Author:** ![StonedCold13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/stonedcold13/32/1094279_2.png) [@StonedCold13](https://ilgmforum.com/u/StonedCold13)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/17 "2021-09-18T01:53:31Z")
I’ve just started the science side of this and I’m enjoying it. Using the app and dialing my lights back is a nice change. ---
**Author:** ![Low](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/low/32/1169155_2.png) [@Low](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Low)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/18 "2021-09-18T01:54:15Z")
It’s pretty great. No more guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Wormwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/mr_wormwood/32/612861_2.png) [@Mr\_Wormwood](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Mr_Wormwood)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/19 "2021-09-18T01:58:49Z")
What app is recommended by fam ---
**Author:** ![Payton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/payton/32/560228_2.png) [@Payton](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Payton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/20 "2021-09-18T02:02:28Z")
Ppfd says 40 Dli says 2.5 Lux says 2000 These mean nothing to me haha I don’t know what it’s supposed to be @Low ---
**Author:** ![Dankloud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dankloud/32/678344_2.png) [@Dankloud](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Dankloud)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331/21 "2021-09-18T02:03:59Z")
That is extremely low… Do you have the time cycle set correctly? [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/are-red-stems-ok-how-does-grow-look/75331.md?page=2)