# All of a sudden she looks bad: leaves shriveling, etc **URL:** \ **Category:** Troubleshooting\ **Created:** [October 21, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401 "2023-10-21T22:27:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/1 "2023-10-21T22:27:10Z")
She’s my first grow: ILGM. White Widow autoflower Growing in coco coir, worm castings, perlite. Indoor grow in 4x2 tent with 2 Vivosun VS1000 LED lights. ![IMG_20231021_154014282_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/f/e/ffea8a979014a93de9376cf37f9f84564e52d9a9.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_094631438_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/6/0/f6069c18f658f37b463c3e34076ca5824b86216c.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_094619923_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/6/4/5646c0e2898f83da1a4a130b03607f6329a1677a.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_094615478_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/0/b/40bcd37f84b66bad9606907524dabb4d92969946.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_094537105_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/4/1/f41e3c9f295f097769fce3e0de4bddefec899c1d.jpeg) She’s being bottom fed with AC Infinity self-waterers. I emptied her reservoir this afternoon and flushed her with just water. Any help, suggestions, or what you think is going on with her would be greatly appreciated! 💞 ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/2 "2023-10-21T22:31:51Z")
Whats your heat and humidity like? ---
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/3 "2023-10-21T22:33:55Z")
Temp at 21.8 C, humidity is at 49%. ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/4 "2023-10-21T22:54:09Z")
Your grow looks nearly done… have you checked trichomes? ---
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/5 "2023-10-21T23:02:26Z")
I have. I’m not seeing any ambers at all, just a mix of clear and cloudy ones. ![IMG_20231019_193631400](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/f/1/8/f18713527969a726ee44cc3f50ff7507e4d97a3d.jpeg) ![IMG_20231019_193613437](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/7/9/3/7938d662ec4e9ba89689528dc7fd311690d6eb45.jpeg) ![IMG_20231019_193543278](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/e/7/f/e7ffc60a4b10ffc49009d55dd5c3065b92f8ff72.jpeg) ![IMG_20231018_105229954](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/1/9/2/192bd0b963f46a4e9cbc11f92f3bd2a0faa109e0.jpeg) ![IMG_20231018_105205156](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/3/6/7/36721c05207e861cf325dc374358799532638b5f.jpeg) @Aussie_autos was thinking she’d be ready possibly at the end of week 7, which will be this coming Wednesday. I got really nervous when seeing her leaves this morning. ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/6 "2023-10-21T23:17:10Z")
Have you checked runoff ppms or ph ? ---
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/7 "2023-10-21T23:27:00Z")
I flushed her a couple of times with water. Starting EC was 2654, after the flushes it’s down to 2133. I didn’t check pH before I flushed and afterwards now the pH is down at 3.8 pH. Someone mentioned that it looked like a pH imbalance and suggested I flush her and then allow the coco to dry out a few days before putting water/nutes back into her reservoir. Is it ok to leave the pH down while the coco dries out from the flushing? And with watching her trichomes daily (more like 20 times a day or more 😆), if she is in fact getting close to finishing up by this coming Wednesday or shortly thereafter, how should I proceed with handling her? ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/8 "2023-10-21T23:43:03Z")
Need to get that ph up to at least 5.8 the low ph is stressing her and therefore curling. ---
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/9 "2023-10-22T00:56:00Z")
![IMG_20231021_185417562](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/6/a/9/6a9dd9ee4f301fd1d98c795a2c3e26abcf02accd.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_185307756](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/2/9/d29bfebd0094272b86e2260329026066d9353fa0.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_185156160](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/0/4/5/0458abdbdc48cc6eeef89ed1b1b53c65b767891e.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_184512371](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/8/0/0/800b6931dac8cf6dcf2236477fafc39ed2e5d1dd.jpeg) ![IMG_20231021_184238759](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/e/8/4e83c0600ece62c8addae0141633384a66e74ad3.jpeg) These are trichomes shots I just took tonight. ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/10 "2023-10-22T01:04:55Z")
Yea, still got a week or two to cloudy those up ---
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/11 "2023-10-22T15:29:15Z")
I think I’ve killed her overnight 😭😭😭 Is it worth cutting her down and seeing if any of her Bud is salvageable? How would I even know how long she should dry in the condition that she’s in? ![IMG_20231022_094537463](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/d/b/4/db4be79da01b184befbd034bd7ca3b20129528fe.jpeg) ![IMG_20231022_093934046](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/7/9/5791fce642b93cf9a895ce860973b486fb9af353.jpeg) ![IMG_20231022_092141592_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/3/4/3/343e559f9e696b0291b1d4f4ab5e627cc0fe4bf7.jpeg) ![IMG_20231022_092124924_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/5/f/6/5f69e0b487afc45d3ba2bb1faff551856582dd9e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ShirleyC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/shirleyc/32/917075_2.png) [@ShirleyC](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ShirleyC)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/12 "2023-10-22T15:29:59Z")
![IMG_20231022_092114640_HDR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/4/c/b/4cb282b00af1350ba373c0ea16ec8acd78aeef5b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Autos-only](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/autos-only/32/846017_2.png) [@Autos-only](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Autos-only)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/13 "2023-10-22T16:09:32Z")
> [@ShirleyC](#): > > Starting EC was 2654, after the flushes it’s down to 2133. I didn’t check pH before I flushed and afterwards now the pH is down at 3.8 pH. Keep flushing, don’t stop until ph is around 6. Follow with a feeding about 800-1000ppm. > [@ShirleyC](#): > > allow the coco to dry out a few days before putting water/nutes back into her reservoir. Never allow coco to dry! Coco needs about 90% saturation at all times!! Never never! Feed coco everyday minimum once a day. Always feed to runoff 10-20%, this allow the old to get out and make room for the new. Check runoff ppm, runoff should never exceed 300+ more than you are feeding. ---
**Author:** ![Autos-only](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/autos-only/32/846017_2.png) [@Autos-only](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Autos-only)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/14 "2023-10-22T16:27:42Z")
Coco and soil CANNOT be treated the same. They are two different animals. Coco imho is the easiest medium to grow in. It’s very forgiving and when something happens… you just water again… if that didn’t fix it, you water again. If it’s fixed and you feel like watering it again, you water it again… Half way through the day you think hmmm I think they need a little more ppm in their feed… you water it again… It’s literally that simple, measure your input, measure your runoff and if you feel like you’re not watering it enough, you water it again. ---
**Author:** ![ChittyChittyBangin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/chittychittybangin/32/1095484_2.png) [@ChittyChittyBangin](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ChittyChittyBangin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/15 "2023-10-22T16:54:53Z")
This ^^^^ youll be suprised how resilient these plants are. Dont give up ---
**Author:** ![TMC.PRE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/tmc.pre/32/799283_2.png) [@TMC.PRE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/TMC.PRE)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/16 "2023-10-23T14:31:51Z")
True that’s why I love soil hahaha! ---
**Author:** ![DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f05b48/32.png) [@DEEPDIVERDAVE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/DEEPDIVERDAVE)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/all-of-a-sudden-she-looks-bad-leaves-shriveling-etc/106401/17 "2023-11-03T16:34:31Z")
> [@ChittyChittyBangin](#): > > This ^^^^ youll be suprised how resilient these plants are. Dont give up And trimming the “ugly fan leaves” (wet trim after harvest) will improve the looks. Fan leaves don’t contribute to smoke. The rest of the plant is good. Drop some seeds now. Harvest soon.IMO