# Advice on setting up Perpetual harvest **URL:** \ **Category:** Preparations\ **Created:** [August 18, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972 "2022-08-18T14:16:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/1 "2022-08-18T14:16:15Z")
So In my grow room i have two grow tents. One 2x4 with 300 watt mars hydro led and a 5x5 with a 800 watt mars hydro led. At the moment i am using both tents to grow a total of 6 plants however after this harvest I want it up to be a more of a perpetual harvest situation. I have closet room to do cloning propagation and seed germinating along with the two grow tents(yay for spare bedrooms). What i am trying to figure out is how many plants should i put in the 2x4 and what size pots should i use? I am going to just switch to coco/ perlite 70/30 mix for everything. I was thinking vegging in 2 gallon and transplanting to 3-5 gallon. I was thinking of going towards the smaller end cause ideally i would like to cut my veg times and eventually put in drip irrigation for both flowering and vegging tent. This will be fun project and I would love to get some old timers thoughts on the matter. Anyone have any advice? Specifically with pot size and plant counts as this is what I am actively deliberating on. Instead of doing 4 plants in 5 gallon bags as I have been doing i was thinking of 8 plants in 3 gallon like after being transplanted from the 2 gallon in veg. Also If anyone knows anything about setting up irrigation specifically in a situation where theres a separate veg and flower room like there will be in my case. As always much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![BigCat420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bigcat420/32/557989_2.png) [@BigCat420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BigCat420)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/2 "2022-08-19T16:42:51Z")
I would look into hellraisers grow. Me personally on my 5x5 i wont grow more than 3 at a time in 3-5 gallon pots. Grow medium of choice is canna coco bricks rehydrated. Ive moved to 3 gallon and i much prefer them over 5 gallon bags. Keep in mind a mature plant can get to 4ft tall by 4ft wide. I like to go from red solo cups to 1 gal and final pot 3 gal. Works out great and my current run is 17 1 gal fabric pots in a SOG. I’d say a big determining factor is the amount of time you want them in veg and what training methods if any you plan to go with. 1 plant would be enough itself for a 2x4 but ive seen some people grow up to 3-4 i wouldnt do more than 3 trained plants in a 2x4 ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/3 "2022-08-19T16:58:55Z")
I’m only using the 2x4 for my veg and will move them to the 5x5 for flower. Ideally I’d like to cut my veg time so I was thinking of trying 8 plants ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/4 "2022-08-19T17:02:26Z")
I’m thinking veg in one gallon pots in the 2x4 and then move to 5x5 transplant to 3 gallon. Why do you prefer 3 gallon over 5? ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/5 "2022-08-19T17:03:12Z")
I’d like to keep veg time under 45 days ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/6 "2022-08-19T17:04:14Z")
Are 3 gallon better for irrigation drips? ---
**Author:** ![Storm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/storm/32/1066086_2.png) [@Storm](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Storm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/7 "2022-08-19T17:05:30Z")
I run a perpetual. I veg my photo in a 3x3. I run auto along with flowering photo on 12/12 in my 4x8. As a photo chops i move another over. The auto give me vatiety and grow fine on 12/12 start to finish. ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/8 "2022-08-19T17:05:55Z")
Can you do low stress training in a sog situation? ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/9 "2022-08-19T17:07:16Z")
Is my 2x4 big enough to veg for my 5x5? ---
**Author:** ![Storm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/storm/32/1066086_2.png) [@Storm](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Storm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/10 "2022-08-19T17:07:28Z")
Yes but a sog will not allow you to move plants around. Just lst no sog easier on me. ---
**Author:** ![Storm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/storm/32/1066086_2.png) [@Storm](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Storm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/11 "2022-08-19T17:08:03Z")
> [@matty777](#): > > Is my 2x4 big enough to veg for my 5x5? Yes it is. ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/12 "2022-08-19T17:09:05Z")
How many plants would you suggest ideally I want to keep the veg time as short as possible and do lst training and supercropping ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/13 "2022-08-19T17:10:42Z")
I have 4 in the 5x5 now but it took 9 weeks to veg these . ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/4X/9/6/6/9666fa9f9e063477f0136aae01bb966212a6f7cf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Storm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/storm/32/1066086_2.png) [@Storm](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Storm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/14 "2022-08-19T17:10:44Z")
3 in 5gal. 4 in 3gal. When you move to flip start 3-4 more. By harvest the new plants ready to flip. Rinse repeat. Also 3 photo and an auto in flower tent keeps 1 always harvesting if time it right. ---
**Author:** ![Storm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/storm/32/1066086_2.png) [@Storm](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Storm)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/15 "2022-08-19T17:13:43Z")
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**Author:** ![BigCat420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bigcat420/32/557989_2.png) [@BigCat420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BigCat420)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/16 "2022-08-19T20:38:18Z")
Ive had 3 ladies take up my whole 4x8 with LST and a trellis net. I veg in a 5x5 and move to a 4x8 for flower and dry in a 4x4. I try to keep it as perpetual as possible. Ill usually run anywhere from 2-4 plants and veg for 2 months before flip while doing LST and some kushman chiropractics. The grow im on now is a SOG and i split it into 2 different drip tray setup. Id have to agree with @Storm just keep them going one after another. Once one is in flower start new seeds and use your veg space. For fun you could even clone some plants after a flower run should you get bored and want to try something new or if you just find some really good phenotypes. For me it was important to have a drying tent to shave off some veg time and be able to control that environment better for a slow cure ---
**Author:** ![BigCat420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bigcat420/32/557989_2.png) [@BigCat420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BigCat420)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/17 "2022-08-19T20:44:00Z")
> [@matty777](#): > > Are 3 gallon better for irrigation drips? Ive never successfully ran drip irrigation. The one time i did i made my reservoir air tight and flooded my whole setup then got mad and said never again. Learn from my mistakes lol ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/18 "2022-08-19T21:38:32Z")
How long before harvesting should I pop my new seeds? I have a closet space for cloning propagation and I absolutely plan on cloning and pheno hunting. ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/19 "2022-08-19T21:43:27Z")
I have a t5 light and propagation tank in closet ---
**Author:** ![matty777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/matty777/32/778818_2.png) [@matty777](https://ilgmforum.com/u/matty777)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972/20 "2022-08-19T21:44:17Z")
@BigCat420 ive also been doing Kyle kushmans chiropractic for all my girls and man oh man does it do wonders. [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/advice-on-setting-up-perpetual-harvest/91972.md?page=2)