# 6 plants: 2 males, 4 hermies. What gives? **URL:** \ **Category:** Flowering\ **Created:** [February 12, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108 "2017-02-12T04:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/1 "2017-02-12T04:23:17Z")
I had high hopes for my first plants grown from local “common” seed. But as all four females began to flower, they all produced male blooms as well. Grown in dirt, indoors, LED light. Seems like I must have done something really wrong for them all to turn. Another plant bought as a clone from a dispensary has no problems. What could it be? ---
**Author:** ![Hogmaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/hogmaster/32/619897_2.png) [@Hogmaster](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hogmaster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/2 "2017-02-12T04:31:33Z")
You should fill out a support ticket and pictures always helps to ---
**Author:** ![Majiktoker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/majiktoker/32/80701_2.png) [@Majiktoker](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Majiktoker)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/3 "2017-02-12T05:41:10Z")
Most common problem…your plants stressed out ie; environment stress of some type, some sort of disturbance in the dark cycle, or stressed another way, if clones could have been carried by genetics ---
**Author:** ![Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bc79bd/32.png) [@Hammer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hammer)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:56am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/4 "2017-02-12T06:56:02Z")
@ProctorPot, it could just be simply the genetics’. have you spoke to others who’ve grown this exact same strain before? or order from here .we’ve got proven genetics. And people growing them all the time.and willing to assist you in choosing a strain for your need’s. Just @Hammer me and ill try to assist in a day or less. Hammer ---
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/5 "2017-02-12T17:49:36Z")
The fellow who gave me the seeds does not have a big problem with hermies, but he only grows outdoors. The plants look healthy and began to flower the tips when I went to 12/12 lighting. The room was well controlled for temperature. I learned late that I was over fertilizing because the nutes call for half strength in dirt. But the plants didn’t seem to suffer much except exhibiting some leaf curl at the end, and I corrected that. Maybe that was enough. I would post pics, but I don’t see how to do that. Also, as a newbie, I don’t know about “support tickets”. Can I finish these hermies off outside in Southern California, or should I clip what I have and call it done? I hate to waste all the effort and the young female tops. I guess I wouldn’t trust any seeds I get anyway, they may be too prone to hermies. ---
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/6 "2017-02-12T18:02:18Z")
Strain: Bag seed, unknown type, looks indica Soil in “Formula420” 1 gallon dirt pots PH of water kept at 6.5-6.8 What is strength of nutrient mix? Only rainwater, no TDS meter Indoor small bathroom Light system: “600 watt (effective) full spectrum” LED. 256 watts actual at 18-24 inches. Temps; Day: 76°F, Night: 68°F, 2-step thermostat controlled space heater Humidity; Day, Night 45% to 60% Ventilation system; None Co2: No At 5 weeks plants are about 22" tall and look good. ---
**Author:** ![TxGrowman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/txgrowman/32/118430_2.png) [@TxGrowman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/TxGrowman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/7 "2017-02-12T23:06:15Z")
If the other seeds were not a problem, it may be light problems. Is your bathroom totally light free with the door closed. Even a little light can cause problems. ---
**Author:** ![garrigan62](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/garrigan62/32/82896_2.png) [@garrigan62](https://ilgmforum.com/u/garrigan62)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/8 "2017-02-13T02:05:48Z")
@protectorPot I can tell you with no dought that it wasn’t you. It’s your seeds. As you stated your seeds were " grown from local “common” seed. " therer’s your answer. The clone was bought at the other plant was bought at the dispensary has no problems. Thats because you bought it at a creditable place. Next time get seeds. Get them at this link and you won’t have that problem ever again It’s the one for the seed bank, I added the other links so you can read and better help you in growing hope this helps Will > **[Marijuana Grow Guides](https://www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/growing/)** > > Marijuana Grow Guides > **[Buy Feminized & Autoflower Marijuana Seeds Online \>\> ILGM](https://ilgm.com/)** > > Buy marijuana seeds online from the best seed bank. Feminized & autoflower cannabis seeds for sale. Delivery within the USA. ✅ > **[Best marijuana fertilizers](https://www.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/growing/marijuana-fertilizers/)** > > Best marijuana fertilizers > **[Download the Marijuana Grow Bible](https://ilgm.com/grow-bible)** > > A free grow guide that teaches you how to get the biggest yields from cannabis plants and how to get started! ---
**Author:** ![TXWhip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@TXWhip](https://ilgmforum.com/u/TXWhip)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/9 "2017-02-13T02:53:53Z")
Hi! I am first time grower. I started with white widows of known strain and breeding. That is best. I had 12 unknown seeds, but decided to “go big and go best” with ILGM product and information. No ad, honest, but the best is better. Have already ordered more good stuff and it arrived in good time. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bc79bd/32.png) [@Hammer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hammer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/10 "2017-02-13T06:17:10Z")
@ProctorPot, yes you can, but it will likely be very seedy. Hammer. ---
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/11 "2017-02-14T00:41:56Z")
I have moved my four hermies outside and I’d like to see what becomes of them. I’d like them to continue with their flowering. I have read that they should have 12 hours of light and dark for flowering. Do they need 12 hours of light for blooming, or can I put them in the dark for more than 12 hours and still maintain the bloom cycle? I assume the bigger issue is that they get no more than 12 hours of light. ---
**Author:** ![TxGrowman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/txgrowman/32/118430_2.png) [@TxGrowman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/TxGrowman)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/12 "2017-02-14T02:36:30Z")
The flowering cycle is actually initiated by darkness 12 hours or more a night. The plant thinks that winter is coming and starts to flower to produce seeds. As long as there are no males present, the ladies will produce buds without seeds. Really important in indoor growing is light integrity. If there are ANY light leaks in the grow tent, it can produce hermies. ---
**Author:** ![Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bc79bd/32.png) [@Hammer](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Hammer)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/13 "2017-02-14T03:38:10Z")
@ProctorPot, to answer your question. To continue flowering they must not get any more then 12 HR’s of light .and they can get as few as 10 HR’s of light and 14 Hrs of darkness. Any less then that and the yield will be less, and slow way down on growth. Hammer. ---
**Author:** ![ktreez420](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/ktreez420/32/11764_2.png) [@ktreez420](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ktreez420)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/14 "2017-02-14T03:41:59Z")
I think your problem is that you’re growing and flowering in 1 gallon pots. The potential for being root bound and having a nutrient build up are very possibly the answer to why your seeds hermied. Just a thought tho, I could be completely wrong! ✌🌲🌲 ---
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/15 "2017-02-15T00:34:37Z")
One gallon pots … good to know. My grow space is small, so I kept my containers small. Next time, larger pots. Light leaks … I sat in the room in the dark and the only light I can see is a small, not very bright red LED on an electrical device that blinks. The window is covered and the hallway is dark and the door is never opened. But there must be lots of outdoor plots with city lights or traffic lights. My room seems much darker than any outdoor space in city life. ---
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/16 "2017-02-15T23:13:51Z")
I have a lot of effort invested in the four herms (my first grow). They will never produce superior product. My choices would seem to be: A) cut the tops now and smoke them as is, or B) let them finish with seed and smoke that. What would be recommended? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/d/5/d5bf2bd814f201d3fa096c9b97e637b9a43e2508.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/17 "2017-02-15T23:42:08Z")
Let them finish and in bonus you’ll have seeds 😉😇, however, you will not be able to go from your outside growth to your inside one directly without risking contamination. It’s a personnal choice, if you’re willing to change cloth every time you want to go to your inside grow, why not ~Al ✌ 😇 ---
**Author:** ![ProctorPot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/proctorpot/32/30487_2.png) [@ProctorPot](https://ilgmforum.com/u/ProctorPot)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/18 "2017-02-16T17:40:38Z")
I have read that water spray neutralizes male pollen. I imagine this might be attributed to the fact that it can no longer float around and get to the female flowers. Does anyone know if this is true? In the context of trying to finish off four hermaphrodites, I wonder if I might lessen the seeding by spraying them with water a couple of times per day. ---
**Author:** ![Donaldj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/donaldj/32/76518_2.png) [@Donaldj](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Donaldj)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/19 "2017-02-16T17:43:17Z")
water spray also promotes bud rot in flower ---
**Author:** ![Niala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/niala/32/86871_2.png) [@Niala](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Niala)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108/20 "2017-02-16T17:49:04Z")
I agree with @Donaldj, espacelly if you intend to do it a couples of time per day. [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/6-plants-2-males-4-hermies-what-gives/9108.md?page=2)