# 1st Grow, LED's 4x4 and Blue Dream **URL:** \ **Category:** Grow Journals\ **Created:** [March 20, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482 "2018-03-20T17:06:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/1 "2018-03-20T17:06:22Z")
I kicked my first grow off a bit ago and am just now starting to post. Hey…less for you to wait for. The starting setup: Blue Dream seeds: 18W CFL box Veg setup: 4x4x7 grow tent Vivapar 900w 10gallon fabric pots random carbon filter and 4" duct fan @ 130CFM air movement ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/2 "2018-03-20T17:07:13Z")
13 Jan ![20180113_231422967_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/d/d/dd260e86c21f27d5781b5903a665678a2ebb56fe.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/3 "2018-03-20T17:08:33Z")
17 Jan ![20180118_023350870_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/6/a/6a4759efc2c528c1cc45fe15e9edcc673ac56cbe.jpg) ![20180118_023358007_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/e/8/e84eb6780b2c022b357361d6122af926ff66a5a6.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/4 "2018-03-20T17:09:29Z")
25 Jan ![20180126_020121817_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/5/4/54cd42dac85bb760ee114cc61961d7e5e9d8fcab.jpg) ![20180126_020126020_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/c/7/c735ebbc4ee69b4efd30fb50a98059dabbe2f99e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/5 "2018-03-20T17:10:29Z")
2 Feb ![20180203_032057374_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/2/e/2e123ce58f05c977b1b54945b7a02be201acd2ca.jpg) ![20180203_032100743_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/5/6/5645a0f2ac92c756a4240630946047ccd0b7b229.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/6 "2018-03-20T17:12:45Z")
March 2. (grow started ~Jan 13) Feels like I made a huge mistake on waiting to move to the larger pots (as in I should have moved sooner). 10 gallon fabric pots. ![20180302_220341033_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/6/4/64c9a9ba1be4fa276c6634bdf89a7c09b40c3344.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Bogleg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bogleg/32/128438_2.png) [@Bogleg](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bogleg)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/7 "2018-03-20T19:14:26Z")
Looking good! I would consider starting to save now for another light when you get to flower. You will easily fill your entire 4x4 tent with those 4 plants and your current light, which I assume is this one: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01795XMEY?tag=greenrel-20](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01795XMEY?tag=ilovegrowingm-20) Has a flower foot print of 3’x3’ at 24"… and that’s the maximum foot print, not the ideal one (IMHO). Two of them can probably get you home with some nice bud. ---
**Author:** ![BIGE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bige/32/34832_2.png) [@BIGE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BIGE)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/8 "2018-03-20T21:55:36Z")
we live and learn @renaissanceman ,they still look to be in good shape… welcome to the forum,and i’ll be watching… you have a good start for sure! ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/9 "2018-03-21T17:53:18Z")
Thanks All! The lighting has definitely been on my mind. I did what most of us do when starting out…the best I knew of with limited information (i.e. amazon research and some googling). Mar 11 ![20180311_222328934_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/2/7/27672d8327a6c3f6f1a5be7d465df73bc04152b7.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/10 "2018-03-21T18:25:51Z")
20 Mar - finally caught up! ![20180320_154118531_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/f/9/f908855ef3bbee277fa561f26aa9dc016044582c.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/11 "2018-03-21T18:34:44Z")
That’s the one I have, viparspecta 900W (the square one). I certainly see that I need to do something different. Ideas appreciated. Rather not shift to 2 tents and another 4 lights…right now . But, new light setup ideas greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Bogleg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bogleg/32/128438_2.png) [@Bogleg](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Bogleg)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/12 "2018-03-21T18:41:38Z")
I think the light you picked was a smart choice, considering the options. I didn’t pick such a smart choice when I started. 😃 If I were in your shoes right now I’d probably finish this grow with that light and see how it goes. That being said, when I was in your shoes, I ended up buying a second light about halfway through flower and finishing that grow with it, then using both of them through veg on my second grow before building out my own LEDs with @dbrn32’s help…and now I have two tents. Heh. Anyway with the one light you have you’ll get to harvest and have plenty of good cannabis flower as a result, IMHO, but your weight might not be where it could be with a little more juice. This hobby (especially the indoor variety) has a way of being a serious money pit, so having a game plan is a good way to try and keep it under control. 😃 And as always it depends on how much money you have. ---
**Author:** ![BIGE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bige/32/34832_2.png) [@BIGE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BIGE)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/13 "2018-03-21T18:50:45Z")
i had to fight off the urge to buy an ez-cloner today @Bogleg @renaissanceman it hasn’t been easy…lol until i thought about how that $$$$ would go better towards more lighting…lol ---
**Author:** ![Alton66](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/alton66/32/74267_2.png) [@Alton66](https://ilgmforum.com/u/Alton66)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/14 "2018-03-21T18:55:05Z")
That is a beautiful photo!!! The blue lighting really encapsulates the plants and brings about a certain “” mood “”. Your grow looks great!!!😃👍 ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/15 "2018-03-21T19:01:59Z")
You can diy that at substantial savings too bro! ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/16 "2018-03-21T19:04:33Z")
If building a light is an option, it will certainly be the most performance for your dollar. It’s not as difficult as most think with the modern components. If that’s a little more than you want to take on, we can still point you in the direction of solid ready to run fixtures. ---
**Author:** ![BIGE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/bige/32/34832_2.png) [@BIGE](https://ilgmforum.com/u/BIGE)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/17 "2018-03-21T19:35:14Z")
@WillyJ talked me into using my rapid rooters and t-5 light… still kinda waiting on chill to put up more info on the pucks…lol ---
**Author:** ![dbrn32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/user_avatar/ilgmforum.com/dbrn32/32/533801_2.png) [@dbrn32](https://ilgmforum.com/u/dbrn32)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/18 "2018-03-21T20:54:54Z")
Sweet! Check YouTube for diy aero cloner. I seen a pretty solid option for probably $30-40. ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/19 "2018-03-22T14:26:11Z")
Building a light is an option. I’m handy…I just need to find time and energy to do it. Eventually what I need is something I’m comfortable leaving alone for up to 10 days at a time when I’m traveling. So, watering system plus lights that are ‘safe’. I’d also rather maximize my yield against light (while balancing my electric costs). i.e greater efficiency…up to a point is always good…assuming if I get tired of growing, or can’t for some reason…I’ll be able to sell lights, etc. I’m pretty sure I’ll be moving in the next year. If I do this setup will most likely transition to a basement setup that’s sealed and larger for some expansion. ---
**Author:** ![renaissanceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@renaissanceman](https://ilgmforum.com/u/renaissanceman)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482/20 "2018-03-28T15:59:25Z")
3/28 update. Just shifted my light up before this picture and turned a few plants around. I’ve got a laggard unfortunately and one that just really likes growing…topped once and everything. The string is at 30", planned SCROG height. Looks like I need to get the SCROG built this week. These are gonna TAKE OVER my tent. #shouldhavegrown2 ![20180328_152914207_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/7/0/7094c4157b6ba1a0ff2ebf976947774a44bfaaf5.jpg) ![20180328_152830910_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/2/f/2f391fc8831a6ee8abdf83ae538b302b67eefa2e.jpg) ![20180328_152846488_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/e/0/e0c877bc3103b150d9b636cc1d8cbf4673b7d406.jpg) ![20180328_152825639_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/f/3/f306d78db5664a550dcae1ff317aa4c1a79b26c9.jpg) ![20180328_152705800_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/a/5/a5f587691f2cffa99985f85e752747825d1e632a.jpg) ![20180328_152835613_iOS](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/growingmarijuana/original/3X/8/4/84e5c0a72d669adb3eba9e2069a6034fa65b34de.jpg) [Next page](https://ilgmforum.com/t/1st-grow-leds-4x4-and-blue-dream/18482.md?page=2)